Morality

[Agnostico]

Ignorance lead to superstition and religion and god claims. Our species socializing is evolutionary regardless. Humans 200,000 years ago simply made bad guesses, and that lead to the grouping today we call religion. 

Other species form groups as well, group socializing is not unique to humans.

Evolution leads many species to seek patterns and form groups. The problem with humans back in pre historic times is that we had no modern knowledge. So when something around us, like a volcano, or storm, or even migration of our prey, had a positive or negative effect on us, we made the gap answer projection of our own qualities in super natural form as having an effect on that which was affecting us.

"Anthropomorphism" is the term for that. Gap filling with false perceptions you can even see in your pets. A dog or cat can see it's reflection in the mirror and mistake it for a separate animal and react to it's own reflection. Even my cat still acts like it has claws, even though I have had it declawed, it still tries to scratch furniture in a futile attempt to sharpen claws it does not have. It is why birds and deer can mistake a really clean window as not being there at all and run into it. 

Religion is NOT the foundation of humanity anymore than Santa is the foundation of Christmas. Religion is certainly part of our species history yes. But the thing that causes our grouping itself is evolution, and that is far older than our species. You can be successful as a society but still base that on false claims. The ancient Egyptians were successful for over 3,000 years grouping around the very false perception that a God named Ra controlled the sun.

Brian37 this is gold. Im sorry if I missed any of ur posts b4.
This is food for thought, very good. Im shaking my head because iv watched so many docos on primates and watched their societies and I never equated religion to be simply a group.
I guess the thought of religion would bring up images of baboons doing the whole Islamic prayer thing. LoL.
But thats all it is in those days. A group

This was a counter theory I had in my mind. I imagined humans being in either a harem type of society against what I called the Gibbon style society which is the B37 theory.
The Gibbons are the closet thing to human society as far as im aware. I think  the harem society has a couple more things going for it, I'll tell u my reasons if u want.

Iv never been too comfortable with  "the need for a need of a sky daddy" theory. Ur very articulate. It sounds much nicer the way u say it. Im a crap writter sorry.

I came up with this  thought right now now. Why did they start religion? For war. I think war has been with man from day one, driven by resorces.
Religion would of been a great motivator. Maybe thats why. U induced this thought Brian37. I think it belongs in your theory. 

I saw "Anthropomorphism" and read your paragraph. But I had to look that up. LoL.
Ur basically explaining how the Christian god was made in mans form instead of the other way around i think

Can u please give me the definition u used for "humanity". There are a few even google has 2.
The Egyptians had a few Gods. U heard of Horice? The one with the eagle head. Theres a school of thought that Jesus was based on him.

"You can be successful as a society but still base that on false claims" Totally agree
Its what iv said a few times now but some people here will not entertain the thought.
Their just thoughts, theres no right or wrong. Only thoughts. The good ones are based on observable facts like this.

This Brian37 was a breath of fresh air. There are a couple of things that still make me lean to my harem theory i think. I'll tell u if u want
Only reason Im not putting them down now is because I don't want to sound negative towards ur theory. Its an excellent theory.

Oh i see ur videos now. LoL Brian37, "sky wizard". And I held u in such high regard... Hehehe just joking.
Im not a fan of that term. Its a purposly derogatory term designed to block discourse.

Yes it ultimately probably does come from what ur calling evolution.
Ultimately I said that religion was there at the start of civilization. So its a very similar thought process again B37
Not all people have the same morals but. Take any modern issue and there will be a divide. How do we decide what is law from that?