(September 29, 2011 at 10:18 pm)Pendragon Wrote: No kidding? And in the "real" world" they will never match the perfect idea in our head. If you take a pound of sugar (you will never get a "perfect" pound)
but then you will never be able to divide it into 3 perfectly equal piles. Do you know nothing about the real world? You might get close, but that is not good enough for the idea of "3 equal piles" in our mind.
The real world will never match the subjective image in our mind.
By the way, I am holding one finger up. Am I saying Fuck YOU, or am I relaying the idea of 1?
YES THEY WILL! They do all the time! That doesn't detract in the slightest from my point, but this makes me angry! If you have an orange, how many oranges do you have? Not 1.02 or 1.3502376502386819305723067423805237049325893205723096731095314 or some impossibly accurate but not-quite-1 number of oranges, you have exactly one.
The sugar can be divided into three equal piles, if we're using an equal number of grains of sugar rather than equal mass. Each grain of sugar is discrete and can be counted exactly, and if there is a multiple of 3 number of grains of sugar in the original pile, it will divide exactly into 3.
Your last point appears to bear no relevance to anything. Please elaborate.
(September 30, 2011 at 9:36 am)Pendragon Wrote: We use math to simplify our understanding of how objects relate in the world. It is a tool from inside. Everything in the objective world has mass, and energy. What mass, and energy do you ascribe to numbers, as you believe them to also be objective?
Light doesn't have mass. Are you saying it's not in the objective world?