Morality

[Brian37]

Do you have a "theory" of Thor being the cause of lightening? No? I bet you rightfully accept humans made that up right? How much time do you spend every day trying to debunk that old mythology?

I know there are good people worldwide. I only disagree as to where they think our species morality is coming from. When you are a kid it is easy for parents to sell you the mythology of Santa, but most kids grow out of that over time. 

I value the likes of Martin Luther King Jr, but no, there is no such thing as a magic baby with super powers. I value the likes of Malala, but her courage to fight male oppression isn't because of Allah. I value the likes of Ann Frank who said "In spite of everything" she thought humans were good at heart, meaning if it were not for the bad leaders, we could get along. I love those who have that empathy in my species. But that empathy is in our species, not old writings.

Do you really know whom you are dealing with? Judging from your responses it seems you had a lot of misconceptions coming in. Then like many, when you didn't get the responses you wanted, it jarred you. 

Ok, so let me clear some of this up for you.

1. We are not a gang.

2. We are not a political party.

3. We are not a religion.

4. We do not love dictators.

5. We will not barbecue your kittens or rape your women.

6. We don't agree on all things all the time.

7. We are just as diverse and come from all nations and come in all skin tones.

8. ^^^^^^^ Keep re reading this list until it sinks in.

Ur the guy that has my Gibbon theory. B37. I asked u some question. No asnwer. Why? I didn't aim this post at u. Everyone else but u it was for
Extremely dissapointed. I though from reading ur theory u would be open to discussion. But uv got 10 commandments. Or 8

Did u read my response to that? How your theory is one I have based on the Gibbon monkey society? Seems not. Very dissapointed.
I thought I had a person to have a logical conversation with
I was very open to ur theory. Its one of mine. But ur dogma somehow still rejects my thought of open theories

Pessimisim is healthy but it seems people are trying to read between the lines instead of taking words off face value. Just an observation


Oh well I never completed my objective of understanding where atheist hate comes from. Might try another forum.
Differnet approach. Come clean with my whole agnostic christian morals theory. And be selesctive to only respond to reason

A glimmer of hope that B37 missed my responses, sees them now  and comes back with an open mind knowing more about where im coming from.
Its a tiny light but

How the hell is valuing human empathy "pessimism"? Skepticism is not pessimism. 

"Pessimism" is insisting that we have to cling to social norms otherwise the world will come to a violent end.

"Skepticism" is POSITIVE, not negative. 

If our species never questioned social norms, our species never would have left the caves.

What would, or should be so frightening to you if you figure out the ride ends? That humans are finite, and not special to the planet or universe? I hope you don't stupidly confuse that with "pessimism".  The ride ending isn't advocating lawlessness or violence. It is simply a statement of natural reality.

It is possible to accept that the ride is finite and be positive at the same time. You go to a movie knowing it ends, but you still go and enjoy it. You go to a music concert knowing it plays a last song, but you still go. You go to a sporting event knowing one team will win, and one team will loose, but you still go. You read a good book knowing it has a last page, but you still read it. You get a pet cat or pet dog, knowing it will not live as long as you, but you get one, and even after it dies you mourn for a while, and even get another after that.

Accepting reality does not make one pessimistic, but realistic. If I am "pessimistic" about anything, it isn't the good in our species, there is lots of good in our species. If I am "pessimistic" about anything, it is that my fellow humans are very capable of better logic and reason, but cling to the past out of fear of change far more than they should.

MOST humans are good. Most humans ARE capable of empathy, compassion and non violence. You are falsely using the word "pessimistic" to ignore considering that our species ability to do good and be good are not rooted in old mythology.

I do fear death FYI, but not the way a theist might think. I fear prolonged pain. I fear not having time with my loved ones and friends. I fear the pain they will feel after I die. But I don't fear any after life punishment/reward anymore than I fear my non existence before I was born. 

Our value as a species, is now, between the time we are born to the time we die. I see good in life, and bad in life. I simply do not assign either to super natural claims or old mythology. I see good in my species and we can choose that, but it is still up to our species to strive for that.