RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 25, 2018 at 2:08 pm
(This post was last modified: December 25, 2018 at 2:49 pm by Deesse23.)
(December 25, 2018 at 12:12 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Now you're not making sense. You want me to explain subjective choice? I can't speak for "angels" as to why they chose something. Maybe they wanted to. Maybe they were promised something. Did you want me to go seek out and ask them all?Look, CDF claimed the devil rebelled against god by rallying 1/3 of the angles. I asked in return, what the devils plan was for heaven, and was concluded (based on the information availiable to me) that he must have balls and charisma. You replied, that this is not necessarily the case and speculated (without giving further evidence/information) that the angels were somehow deceived by the devil or under his spell.
I also asked you how you know the devil was the bad one. Or do you assume this only because he lost?
I asked, more than once, since you seem so well informed about god, devil and heaven, to bring forward more information, but it seems you dont have any. What i wanted was you to substantiate your claims. You were seeingly purely speculating.
(December 25, 2018 at 12:12 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Are you assuming I have some special power to go into the past to read minds?No, i assumed your drug dealer analogy and the underlying assumption of the devils´relation to angels was based on more as "i just pulled this ou tof thin air".
(December 25, 2018 at 12:12 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I would suggest that your question is misplaced. As far as were they stopped from making a choice, it was never implied, so there's really no point unless you can validate some reason why they would need to have been prevented from making a decision. Again, another misplaced question. Of course if you can explain the necessity, then that could always be retracted and revisited, but no reason to prematurely on something implied by you.Im not going to explain anything before you have explained the veracity of your drug dealer analogy, hopefully based on more then 100% conjecture.
(December 25, 2018 at 12:12 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: The statement about the rebellion would be correct in both past and present tense. There was a rebellion, as an independent event, and rebellion that continues.A continuing rebellion, after the devil lost the heavenly war? Is this conjecture or do you have anything to substantiate this claim?
I am asking again: What is the devil trying to gain? What is his *program*? Before i get all judgemental i would like to hvae more background information.
(December 25, 2018 at 12:12 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: So far it seems like you're more interested in claiming fallacies than actually engaging material objectively.Didnt i already tell you that i never mentioned fallacies? Didnt i already tell you that your MO is to double down when being called out on BS? Do i have to ask you again where i was talking about fallacies (or even logic)?
(December 25, 2018 at 12:12 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I'm guessing this is a trend with you when you discuss things with people who think differently. I could be wrong, but I guess time will tell. It's usually better to explore things with objectivity if you want to have productive dialogue though, so something to consider. Cheers.Ok, then start by introducing stuff to substantiate your claims about heaven, god and the devil, and stop claiming i am talking about fallacies, when i clearly am not.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse