RE: Morality
December 26, 2018 at 8:40 am
(This post was last modified: December 26, 2018 at 8:44 am by Angrboda.)
(December 24, 2018 at 9:34 pm)Agnostico Wrote:(December 24, 2018 at 1:12 pm)Grandizer Wrote: What exactly about "the law" is Christian? Be specific, because this is such a vague answer you've given.
https://creation.com/images/pdfs/tj/j19_..._67-73.pdf
https://pdxscholar.library.pdx.edu/cgi/v...historians
I'ts irrelevant now anyway. The west is in decline economically and socially and I don't think there is any chance of turning back.
I don't think it will hapen in our lifetime but the west will fall to either China or Islam.
I haven't read your articles either, though I appreciate the links. For many centuries, China ran on Confucian principles and before that was heavily influenced by non-religious philosophy during a period of philosophical flourishing during the Axial age. China functioned quite well in the area of law both before and after unification without any need for Christianity. As Wikipedia notes, "With particular emphasis on the importance of the family and social harmony, rather than on an otherworldly source of spiritual values, the core of Confucianism is humanistic." That pretty much puts a nail in the thesis that society depends upon Christianity for a concept of law. As with Confucianism, a concept of duty and order are all that are required and those can be derived from secular sources. If you had said "our society," meaning the United States, you might have had a point. But you would still be wrong as the relationship between the law in the U.S. and Christianity is a contingent one, not a necessary one, so it's entirely possible that law in the U.S. would have developed just fine based upon some other cultural source other than Christianity. If this is your primary reason for holding "Christian values, " then it seems a rather silly one.
(December 26, 2018 at 2:37 am)Agnostico Wrote: Successful atheist states cannot be observed anywhere in history.
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