RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 26, 2018 at 5:48 pm
(This post was last modified: December 26, 2018 at 5:53 pm by CDF47.)
(December 26, 2018 at 4:39 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: I don't know why preferences even enter into a discussion of whether or not gen 3 had anything to do with some jesus. It didn't, still doesn't. That's one of the more absurd beliefs that some christians hold. Doesn't have anything to do with me or my life experiences..it's just flat out nonsense.
See Isaiah 53.
(December 26, 2018 at 7:38 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:(December 25, 2018 at 1:02 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/dail...r-fiction/
So the entire evidence for what would have been the largest migration of humans in history is one word that is vaguely jew like and a house that is in the style of the jews but built from different materials.
No wonder you didn't add any thoughts as that's the least convincing "evidence" I've ever seen.
I provided a link just like a link was provided for me.
(December 26, 2018 at 8:16 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(December 26, 2018 at 12:00 am)CDF47 Wrote: Deuteronomy is not talking about divine prophecy and interpretation of dreams by divine power.
And how do you know this?
I know this because there is divine prophecy throughout the OT and NT. This is information given by God for His purposes.
(December 26, 2018 at 9:57 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:Quote:Prophecy isn't fortune-telling.
The first prophecy was the Protoevangelium in Genesis 3.
Assertion. No references (as per your usual).
Too bad for you, (since you actually know nothing about Hebrew culture) "prophecy" was not "telling the future" until the turn of the millennium.
The ancient role of a prophet in Hebrew culture was to interpret the words or will of their god to the people OF THEIR OWN DAY. NOT to predict the future. (That's Hollywood's idea of the role of a prophet).
So you often hear fundies talking about "prophesy", and how various prophesies were a 'foretelling", or prediction of the future, and indeed they count them up as "proof" that Jebus or whatever HAS to be true, as the "prophecy" came true.
In fact Leviticus forbade fortune telling and divination, so we know it was an abomination to even think in these terms for many/most centuries in Hebrew culture. However, with the rise of Apocalypticism, around the turn of the millennium, this changed somewhat, and is evidenced in many Christian writings, including the gospels, as they adopted the notions absent in ancient Israel, but coming into popular view with the Essenes. In terms of Hebrew culture, and the "telling of or prediction of" the future, was unknown, and forbidden, and not at ALL a view of the major prophets themselves. However in the the new view, certain "hidden meanings" or "pesherim" began to be looked for, in the practice of Midrash. The name for this is called "pesher", (or seeking a "hidden meaning"), which was not even known to the original speaker/writer, but only "revealed" later
to certain believers. Originally, the (plural) "pesherim" were only fully revealed to the Son of Righteousness, (the leader of the Essenes), and the idea was first found and fully understood after scholars read the Dead Sea scrolls, and was a sub category of "Midrash", (or study of the texts).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesher
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midrash
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsou...15650.html
Thus we see that "prophesy" as fortune telling as began to be practiced in Judaism around the First Century, (and picked up by Christians and the gospel writers), really was a very late invention and never a classical part of Hebrew scripture, or understanding, either interpretation, or intention, and certainly was not the function of the ancient office of "prophet", in Hebrew culture, who was to be a "mouthpiece" to the people of their own day, and not Madame Zelda with her crystal ball.
Prophetic future knowledge is common throughout the Bible.
The LORD Exists: http://www.godandscience.org/
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8