Atheists and Cakes

[Deesse23]

#1 Atheism has nothing to do with trying to stop discrimination. Being a decent person has.
#2 It is been tried to stop people from discriminating against others. Are you in favour or against discrimination?
#4 The baker is offering his service. Nobody forces him to bake cakes. But the is not allowed to discriminate while baking cakes. If he needs to discriminate while baking cakes, based on his religious beliefs, he better re-evaluate his beliefs.


#5a Being gay is not a lifestyle, its a biological condition, aquired by birth.
#5b1 Thinking that being gay is immoral is like thinking being taller than 6ft being immoral. By the way: i dont approve of your *taller than 6ft* lifestyle, and wont bake you any cakes. Hows that?
#5b2 Of course its anyobdys right to be stupid and think other people are immoral for how they were born..
#5b3 ...the bigger question is though, if the bigots who are discriminating are right (rather than being bigots being their right)
#5tl;dl: Its anyones right to be wrong and a bigot, but should we? I can shoot myself in the head with a .45, but should i?

#6 Its not the bakers business to judge on why anyone wants his cake. Noone asks him to believe or celebrate. Accordingly he is not supposed to force anyone else to follow the bakers beliefs. He is only asked to bake cakes, according to his offer to provide his service.
#5 Devout or not. Who gives a shit? Does being a devout bigot make someone a better bigot?

#2 So discriminate against the Christian baker and his or her right to self-determination?
#4 The baker has the right to believe as they choose.  Why should someone else's lifestyle dictate that? 
#5 Sometimes there are biological explanations, sometimes it is environmental and/or personal choice.
#5b1 False analogy.  Height is determined biologically and has nothing to do with morality.  Sexual choices can be immoral. 
#5b2 Same illogical conclusion as already stated.
#5b3 Who is the determining factor of who's a "bigot"?  Again, we all have the right to self-determination regardless of what demographic we fall under.
#5tl False analogy.  First part is presumptive, second part is consequential.

#2 The baker discriminating gays is discrimination. Preventing the baker form discriminating isnt discrminiation. Too bad his feelings/beliefs got hurt in the process of not letting him discriminate. After all nobody forced him to believe any different.
#4 Did somebody deny the baker to believe gays going to hell while he bakes cakes for them? Too bad his feelings got hurt in the process of preventing him form discriminating, but at least his right to believe was untouched.
#5 Personal choice? Please provide evidence. Tangible one preferred, not the crap you like to accept according to the obvious low bar you set for yourself.
#5b1 gayness is not a choice. How often do you need to be told? Read a science textbook.
#5b2  
#5b3 Try *google*
#5tl;dl


P.S.: Probably you are too ignorant, so it seems to be necessary to point out: Even if gayness was a personal choice, its still no justification for discrminitation. The fact that *good christians* like to discrminiate against all sort of people who are different (and in many cases it turns out they are part of the same group/minority they so often scorn) from them tells us more about christianity than about minorities discriminated against.
If personal choices were a good reason to discriminate against then i wouldnt sell you my cakes, because your favourite colour is pink (god, i hate pink, its so gay, and i bet you are a closeted gay because you love pink).