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Atheists and Cakes
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RE: Atheists and Cakes
If the (fictional) Antonio Carlos the famous baker of artistic cakes, each one a custom work of artistry, and who only sees supplicants by appointment, doesn't want to make a custom cake for a gay couple because 'muh religion', he's within his rights under our law. If he opens a shop on main street he is selling cakes in a place of public accommodation, ant the relevant laws apply. All states have public accommodation laws for race and religion, so there's nowhere in the country where he could deny someone who walks into his shop a cake he would make or have made for anyone else because they're 'a Jew or a Black'. He could not refuse to make or have made a wedding cake for an interracial couple if he offers wedding cakes. And in a state where public accommodation laws include sexual orientation, if he offers wedding cakes in his shop, he can't deny the same sort of cake to a gay couple.

On the other hand, he doesn't have to make or have made a cake with 'gay marriage is approved by God' on it. But if he would do a cake with a representation of the couple on top and both their names if they were straight, Antonio has to do the same thing for a gay couple in a state that requires it.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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Atheists and Cakes - by ResoluteBaptist - December 28, 2018 at 12:14 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 12:18 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by ResoluteBaptist - December 28, 2018 at 12:21 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 12:25 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 28, 2018 at 1:51 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 1:56 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Mr.Obvious - December 28, 2018 at 2:02 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 28, 2018 at 6:32 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by onlinebiker - December 28, 2018 at 2:51 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by no one - December 28, 2018 at 4:31 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Gwaithmir - December 28, 2018 at 5:17 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 6:38 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Angrboda - December 28, 2018 at 6:15 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Grandizer - December 28, 2018 at 6:43 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 6:55 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 7:00 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 7:04 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2018 at 7:13 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 7:22 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2018 at 7:36 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 7:51 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 8:13 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2018 at 10:04 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by adey67 - December 31, 2018 at 2:43 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 31, 2018 at 4:33 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 7:18 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2018 at 7:01 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Grandizer - December 28, 2018 at 8:14 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Gawdzilla Sama - December 28, 2018 at 7:33 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Deesse23 - December 28, 2018 at 8:09 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 8:32 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Deesse23 - December 28, 2018 at 10:56 am
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 12:02 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by downbeatplumb - December 28, 2018 at 1:24 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Deesse23 - December 28, 2018 at 2:31 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Rahn127 - December 28, 2018 at 8:18 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by brewer - December 28, 2018 at 8:26 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 9:07 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 9:22 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 9:26 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 10:26 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Grandizer - December 28, 2018 at 9:32 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 9:34 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Mister Agenda - December 28, 2018 at 10:33 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Natachan - December 28, 2018 at 10:48 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by brewer - December 28, 2018 at 11:15 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Mister Agenda - December 28, 2018 at 11:05 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Natachan - December 28, 2018 at 11:39 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 11:52 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Natachan - December 28, 2018 at 12:04 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 28, 2018 at 12:14 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Natachan - December 28, 2018 at 12:14 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Grandizer - December 28, 2018 at 12:39 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by no one - December 28, 2018 at 12:25 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Natachan - December 28, 2018 at 12:44 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by no one - December 28, 2018 at 12:49 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 1:12 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by no one - December 28, 2018 at 1:18 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 1:21 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 28, 2018 at 1:27 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 2:14 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 6:08 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Natachan - December 28, 2018 at 7:02 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 28, 2018 at 8:25 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by no one - December 29, 2018 at 2:38 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Amarok - December 29, 2018 at 4:04 am
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Cod - December 30, 2018 at 7:41 am
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Athene - December 29, 2018 at 10:23 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by ResoluteBaptist - December 30, 2018 at 12:21 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Deesse23 - December 30, 2018 at 1:55 am
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Angrboda - December 30, 2018 at 10:16 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Fake Messiah - December 30, 2018 at 2:48 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by downbeatplumb - December 30, 2018 at 7:07 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by unfogged - December 30, 2018 at 8:59 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Natachan - December 30, 2018 at 10:02 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 30, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by ResoluteBaptist - December 30, 2018 at 2:39 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by vulcanlogician - December 30, 2018 at 3:00 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by unfogged - December 30, 2018 at 3:24 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by downbeatplumb - December 31, 2018 at 5:44 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2018 at 2:43 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 30, 2018 at 3:01 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Natachan - December 30, 2018 at 3:20 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Aliza - December 30, 2018 at 3:52 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by ResoluteBaptist - December 30, 2018 at 5:15 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 30, 2018 at 6:49 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Amarok - December 30, 2018 at 8:30 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by T0 Th3 M4X - December 30, 2018 at 8:42 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Amarok - December 30, 2018 at 8:49 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Amarok - December 30, 2018 at 10:06 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Angrboda - December 31, 2018 at 8:11 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2018 at 5:38 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by vulcanlogician - December 30, 2018 at 5:40 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Peebo-Thuhlu - December 30, 2018 at 5:45 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by unfogged - December 30, 2018 at 5:49 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Natachan - December 30, 2018 at 6:31 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by ResoluteBaptist - December 30, 2018 at 9:25 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by LastPoet - December 31, 2018 at 9:08 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by no one - December 31, 2018 at 2:52 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by adey67 - December 31, 2018 at 3:37 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Amarok - January 1, 2019 at 6:07 am
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Amarok - January 2, 2019 at 4:48 am
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Mister Agenda - January 2, 2019 at 11:18 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Cod - January 2, 2019 at 11:23 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by mooncake - January 14, 2019 at 9:06 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Brian37 - January 14, 2019 at 9:12 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by LostLocke - January 14, 2019 at 10:47 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Divinity - January 14, 2019 at 10:27 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Fake Messiah - January 14, 2019 at 3:19 pm
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Brian37 - January 14, 2019 at 7:43 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Divinity - January 15, 2019 at 10:16 am
RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Fake Messiah - January 17, 2019 at 12:49 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Cecelia - January 14, 2019 at 1:31 pm
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by Fake Messiah - January 15, 2019 at 2:01 am
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RE: Atheists and Cakes - by no one - January 14, 2019 at 2:18 pm
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