RE: Purity Ball
December 29, 2018 at 10:53 am
(This post was last modified: December 29, 2018 at 11:20 am by Angrboda.)
(December 27, 2018 at 4:52 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:(December 27, 2018 at 4:41 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: .......woooooooooosh
Same way that you could. Go..let wonder lead you to knowledge.
If someone breaks a promise, it's on them. Hopefully when someone makes a promise, they go out of their way to keep it.
I can only speak for myself here, but to me it's something I assume as being sacred and I don't use the word "promise" lightly. If I promise something, I'm going to go above and beyond if necessary to uphold my end. But if someone else views a promise differently, then they're going to act accordingly.
Yeah, as anyone has listened to you can attest, your word is worth absolutely dick squat. You're just another lying Christian hypocrite engaged in pious fiction.
(December 27, 2018 at 10:52 pm)ResoluteBaptist Wrote: I am pleased to see this.
These young ladies realize their bodies are sacred, not just toys for men to mistreat.
I feel its bigoted to go after them. Leave the little ladies and their proud papas alone will ya?
Last I recall, these young ladies weren't old enough, mentally mature enough to consent to sex. If the choice is being made not to consent to sex, then who is really making that choice?
If you're not mentally mature enough to choose to consent to sex, then it would follow that you're not mentally mature enough to choose to refrain from granting consent to sex. This would seem like statutory rape in reverse, perpetrated by the churches and the parents. It's no secret that parents and culture have an enormous influence upon children, and it's natural that they should do so. But certain choices should be left to the individual who, upon reaching maturity, is equipped to make those choices. Encouraging children to make choices and commitments that they are not mentally prepared to make, simply in the hopes that various societal pressures and the force of their having supposedly voluntary committed to such will ensure their maintaining these ill gotten promises, is both unethical and abusive.
(December 28, 2018 at 9:03 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:(December 28, 2018 at 8:55 am)Natachan Wrote: As I’ve said, my comments come from my experience with this. I’m aware of how it’s marketed, and I’m also aware of how it is often done.
I also don’t think a 15-16 year old, who is usually who markets this, is an “adult woman” capable of freely making this choice. There is almost always an element of coercion. It is VERY RARE for a grown woman (read, in her 20’s) who is financially independent to make this choice. It happens, and they have my respect. But that isn’t what happens.
Some of the participants are adult women who had contracted STDs and recovered. In light of it, they determined abstinence would be a good option until they are married. That way there are less risks involved with it happening again. I agree that some of it can be manipulative, but I don't believe it's fair to say it applies to all. In and of itself, there's nothing wrong with a ball or making a promise, agreement, or covenant with someone else. If you're forced into it, then that's something completely different.
Since he never said it applies to all, and he explicitly made an exception for that case, you're just erecting a straw man in order to have something to say.
“Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.”
― Plato
(December 28, 2018 at 10:03 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:(December 28, 2018 at 9:43 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: The faithful commonly fail to recognize that their beliefs are deeply coercive..and on the odd moment that they do, generally list that as a pro, not a con. It just comes with the territory of thinking that shit is right and good and proper. This ends up covering for all manner of sins.
The unfaithful commonly fail to follow the idea of MYOB. Instead, they bother anybody who thinks differently and are frequently insistent that you must adhere to their personal ideology instead. If not, they will make insulting or degrading comments towards you, and insist that you must be inferior to them.
See, I can make those statements too.
Yeah, you can make statements, too. Unfortunately for you, your statements constitute a tu quoque, and so they don't carry as much weight as the original statements. But keep swinging, you low rent troll. Maybe you'll get a hit some day.
(December 28, 2018 at 10:53 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:(December 28, 2018 at 10:43 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: I guess we'll have to add satire and parody to the list of things you're wholly ignorant of?
I'm not ignorant of it. I just don't care for a lot of it. Satire often creates more problems than it solves.

I simply refuse to believe that anybody can be this stupid. This HAS to be intentional.
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