DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Angrboda]

Well, first of all, you were just informed that you were wrong in saying that natural selection or whatever is a blind and dumb un-directed process.  It is not.  And second of all, it's been shown that similar processes can lead to order and complexity, so if you are arguing on the basis that, in your opinion, such processes cannot lead to order and complexity, you are simply wrong.  The reason you have given, both because it misrepresents what it is arguing against, and because even accepted on its own terms is wrong, does not lead to the conclusion that such processes cannot produce order and complexity.  So, either you need a reason for why it can do so in these other cases, but not in the case of the order and complexity of life and DNA, or you need another reason.

Do you have either of these?  Because if you don't then your conclusion that such processes cannot lead to order and complexity is unsupported and your conclusion unreliable.

Below is a video of a simulation of evolution, showing similarly "blind and dumb un-directed" processes leading to functional information.

My point was things are either designed or not.  Those are the only two options.  Anything not designed, I consider a blind un-directed process.

Well, considering them such is your first mistake. I've already granted that it was either designed or it wasn't. That takes no effort to come to that conclusion. The question is what evidence do you have that it couldn't have resulted from similarly natural processes. Your previous complaint was that because they are undirected -- they're not -- that they couldn't produce the functional information in DNA. I pointed out that such processes do create functional information, so that reason alone doesn't justify believing that such processes cannot produce DNA or functional information. So you still haven't provided reasons or evidence that shows that such processes could not produce the functional information in DNA. Until you provide something that does show this, your belief that it cannot do so rests on nothing, and your belief that it cannot do so is irrational. If that belief is irrational, and your argument for God rests on that, then your argument for God is irrational. You have given us no reason to believe God exists and every reason to dismiss your belief that DNA proves that he exists. You're going to have to do better than that.

This is about the umpteenth time I've asked you and so far you've provided squat. Do you have evidence or reasons which show that DNA could not have been produced by natural processes?