(January 2, 2019 at 2:23 pm)CDF47 Wrote:(January 1, 2019 at 6:41 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Well, considering them such is your first mistake. I've already granted that it was either designed or it wasn't. That takes no effort to come to that conclusion. The question is what evidence do you have that it couldn't have resulted from similarly natural processes. Your previous complaint was that because they are undirected -- they're not -- that they couldn't produce the functional information in DNA. I pointed out that such processes do create functional information, so that reason alone doesn't justify believing that such processes cannot produce DNA or functional information. So you still haven't provided reasons or evidence that shows that such processes could not produce the functional information in DNA. Until you provide something that does show this, your belief that it cannot do so rests on nothing, and your belief that it cannot do so is irrational. If that belief is irrational, and your argument for God rests on that, then your argument for God is irrational. You have given us no reason to believe God exists and every reason to dismiss your belief that DNA proves that he exists. You're going to have to do better than that.
This is about the umpteenth time I've asked you and so far you've provided squat. Do you have evidence or reasons which show that DNA could not have been produced by natural processes?
Yes, DNA is a functional code that programs an assembly line construction of amino acids to parts which are then formed into proteins by a barrel shaped machine. The protein construct is then transported to the cell to perform its function. This is manufacturing engineering 101 at a nano-scale. This did not come about by chance alone which is all natural causes are.
This is nothing more than an assertion. Nobody is disputing that DNA and life are amazing. What we dispute is that you have reasons or evidence that it could not have come about by natural means. And for the umpteenth time, saying that it came about by chance alone, and that this is all that natural causes are is a lie and a straw man. Natural selection isn't random. If you can't stop lying about this, then I'm going to simply keep pointing out that it's a lie, and that you're aware it's a lie, which makes you nothing more than crassly dishonest. Regardless, you have provided an assertion, and an assertion is neither evidence nor a reason. I specifically asked you for reasons or evidence. If you can't tell the difference between an assertion and reasons or evidence, then it's obvious why you think you've provided evidence, because you don't know what evidence is. Your assertion cuts no ice.
So I'll ask you again. Do you have any reasons or evidence for your belief that DNA could not have arisen through natural means?
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