(January 3, 2019 at 6:52 am)Thoreauvian Wrote:Brain can simply be a transceiver. Inability of scientists to reproduce artificial subjective experience supports this idea.(January 2, 2019 at 3:02 pm)bennyboy Wrote: And this is based on what? Your godlike understanding of the nature of consciousness? A hunch? What? Since you are such a huge champion of scientific technique. . . what particular scientific techniques have you applied in arriving at this deep understanding of the nature of subjective awareness?
Really? You don't think that scientists have now proven, beyond a doubt, that brains generate consciousness?
Quote:P-zombies would be just as good at survival as conscious humans. There is no evolutionary need for qualia/subjective experience.(January 2, 2019 at 3:02 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I believe you're making stuff up, and you do not in fact know the nature of consciousness, or what is required for it to exist. You claim to be big on science, but you've supplied absolutely nothing but statement by fiat, which is the opposite of science.
But the specific question was about qualia. Why did qualia evolve? I offered a perfectly reasonable explanation: because only internal states could guide a complex creature toward survival. A given creature would have to experience pleasures and pains, and prefer life over death, and so on. You can build an awful lot on those basic components.
Quote:You can actually ask people to report their subjective experiences. This wouldn't count as data in physicsWhich means that scientifically consciousness doesn't exist.