(January 3, 2019 at 3:03 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: [quote='downbeatplumb' pid='1874616' dateline='1546527232']
You have literally given me nothing in return for all the explanations I and others have given, I have asked time and time again for a description of a god and how god did these things and you have given nothing.
Let me say again that to say god did something is not enough if you provide no evidence for that or even a good definition of what a god is.
As far as I can see god is just a cover for you not knowing something.
You don't know, therefore god.
(January 3, 2019 at 3:03 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: You produce nothing, and you have nothing. I know therefore "God", you don't know therefore "atheism",
I don't find the idea of god convincing which makes I don't know therefore atheism is a perfectly valid position.
That is all.
Let me break it down for you.
You say "god exists" I say "what is a god?" and you wont tell me.
"look its in dictionaries" you say "But they are vague and incoherent what do you think a god is?" I ask and you say nothing. You wont even set out your position. How am I supposed to find that compelling?
I think that you don't actually know what you think a god is supposed to be. You just heard he word and liked it.
(January 3, 2019 at 3:03 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: along with things popping out of nowhere, and living things coming from nonliving. Congrats, that's just brilliant. Your whole premise is based on the optical outcome that some day you will die and become tasty worm food. Wow, now that's something to look forward to. One thing is true, we all find what we seek in one form or another. Good luck.Well I did present material things popping out of nowhere that is a demonstrable fact and there are scientifically viable ideas of how living things could have developed from non-living things that are being investigated, remember science is not finished yet and we do not pretend to know everything, which is where we diverge from theists who do pretend to know everything but do not have anything to back up their unlikely ideas.
But what I can say is that whatever caused life to exist and the universe to begin will turn out to be natural processes just like every other thing that was once attributed to god has turned out to be.
And lets look at what you say is evidence for god.
The existence of a universe and life coming from non-life.
This does not match with the homosexual hating, virgin impregnating heaven controlling god of the bible.
And lets not also forget that god was NOT ALONE. He had the angels of various different orders The sepraphim, cherubin and nephalim some of whom rebelled against him in what sounds like battlefield earth.
Why cant you see that this is all just an old civilisations creation myth, its bleeding obvious that the god idea is just a silly hangover from the past.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.