RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 4, 2019 at 3:45 pm
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2019 at 4:14 pm by T0 Th3 M4X.)
(January 4, 2019 at 7:18 am)Amarok Wrote:(January 4, 2019 at 7:12 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: It hasn't failed me. If he has nothing, then there's nothing for me to consider, so on to something different.Actually it has and he does not have to fulfill your irrational requests
Didn't say it was his job. Just as it isn't my job to assume he knows what he's talking about, but I'm at least willing to consider it if he has something to show.
And no video is required
Quote:Just show me. A simple video and done.Or we could ignore your irrational request and point and laugh while high fiving all the biochemists who are working tirelessly on Abiogenesis and All the philosophers and physics who have no issue with the concepts of cosmology you reject and you can continue raving about evil conspiracies to "brainwash people" and demanding "video's "
Either he has something or he doesn't. If he does, then he can either show it or not show it. My concern is solely on his ability to show it. If not, no hard feelings and I will move on. No big deal. If you think that is an irrational approach, fair enough, but that is your opinion, but to me I see no reason to make the matter overly complicated. If he can show me, then I can observe it. If he can't show me, then I can't observe it. My response is already predetermined because I already stated it. He shows it, I observe it, it appears authentic, he wins.
(January 4, 2019 at 7:52 am)pocaracas Wrote:(January 4, 2019 at 5:29 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Oh I spoke with them about it. No need to self-diagnose.
Good, good!
(January 4, 2019 at 5:29 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Nope, wasn't some sleep-related electrical signals.
No batteries included!
(January 4, 2019 at 5:29 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: How did I see myself before that? Pretty much the same as I do now. More times than not I look for natural explanations, but I also try not to carry any specific bias that would inhibit understanding in one form or another. But then again, I would say I work from a more well-defined framework as to how I view the world around me.
You'll just have to take my word for it, but I'm probably once of the most annoyingly analytical person you could ever meet. Even if I didn't want to be that way, it's just how I am. I blame it on learning to play Chess when I was younger, and those same principles apply to life. The strongest position to operate from is in the middle, then you work outward accordingly.
So.... are you saying that you were already christian?
(January 4, 2019 at 5:29 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Did you grow up around religion? What is your outlook on life?
I grew up with little religion in my life.
What little I got came from my grandmother, on the few occasions that I was with her.
No one else said anything otherwise, so I assumed that to be true and generally accepted... then things started not making sense for religion and, for a while, I actually thought I was the only non-believer in the world.
Nowadays, my outlook on life is that it's worth living. It's full of beautiful things to be enjoyed and appreciated... no one seems to be enjoying anything after dying, nor before living, so this is my one chance at it and I want to make the most of it.
No I wasn't already a Christian.
You have a similar outlook on life as I do. There is beauty everywhere.
Our big difference seems to be that what you see as an end, I see as a gateway to the next great adventure.
As a Christian, that in a lot of ways is how we understand Jesus. He came here, went through extreme circumstances like we often do, got chased, beaten, mocked, and eventually died. And in all of it, it wasn't a loss, but the winning move.
(January 4, 2019 at 1:11 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(January 4, 2019 at 6:57 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I don't owe you a special definition. If the dictionary isn't good enough for you, then no problem. On to something else. Maybe the problem is you "thinking" too much and not listening. I'm not the one who is a problem with God being defined or understanding His existence. If you're fine with that, then more power to ya. I'm not going to go around in circles until you agree to a specific definition, because it's a pointless endeavor. You can't get to step B, when you're still fussing that step A wasn't fair.
I don't care about ideas you imagined.
If you cant say what you believe in in a coherent way then perhaps you don't really know.
Quote:Just show me. A simple video and done. If it happens and appears to be legit, you win. If you don't want to do that (or can't), just let me know and we can both move on to something else. No hurt feelings on my end either way.
A video on what particularly.
Things popping into existence ok then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3xLuZNKhlY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB8CBEFDNC8
life coming from chemicals ok then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1xnYFCZ9Yg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1xnYFCZ9Yg
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Video 1 - Was a guy talking to another guy and looking at a computer simulation. Interesting, but didn't see any rocks or any other new matter in the video, just conjecture
Video 2- Talks about friction. Interesting, but didn't see any rocks or any other new matter in the video.
Video 3 - Conjecture about how things may have happened in regard to strands of RNA. Semi-interesting but presumes something that isn't necessary. Still no rocks or any other new matter appearing in the video.
Video 4 - Same response as video 3, because it was the same video.
