RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
January 10, 2019 at 11:26 pm
(This post was last modified: January 10, 2019 at 11:32 pm by CDF47.)
(January 10, 2019 at 1:30 am)pocaracas Wrote:(January 9, 2019 at 6:37 pm)CDF47 Wrote: God is not hiding from us. He is not as involved with us as He was prior to the fall when He had a direct relationship with man.
The fall?
Do you trust that the stories are more than allegory?
How would you expect those stories to have survived intact until the invention of writing?
And, just to make matters worse, the most ancient forms of writing we know of (Sumerian cuneiform and Egyptian hieroglyphs) make no mention of the monotheist god. Don't you find that odd?
No, they worshipped false gods with fabricated myth creation stories.
(January 10, 2019 at 7:09 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(January 9, 2019 at 5:21 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The information in DNA is not only complex, it is also functional. You forget that part. See the video in my signature for how it works. It works like a machine code programming a manufacturing plant.
Calling the information functional doesn't change anything, and function is an interpretation, not an objective fact. The fact of the matter is that chemicals behave according to natural law, whether that's a drop of water or a life form, it's just chemicals doing what chemicals do. If you want to call that functional, then knock yourself out, but then everything in existence has functional information and you've mooted your argument. But even if one were to accept function as a real characteristic, you still have the problem that it has already been shown that such functional information can arise through undirected processes (see my most recent video), which means that the possession of functional information in and of itself does not indicate that it could not have arisen through natural means. So you're still lacking reason or evidence for your claim that DNA could not arise through natural means because the possession of functional information is no bar to natural processes. For my part, I consider function to be a constructed attribute, and not an objective one, that can be quantified by objective measures. If you feel otherwise, then you need to explain how we determine, objectively, that something contains 'functional' information. As a practical matter, function has taken the place of specification in design arguments because specification could not be defined. Function, as an objective property, is no more capable of being defined. It's just a vague, "I'll know it when I see it," subjective criterion.
So, now you have three problems:
1) No evidence or reason why functional information cannot arise through natural processes;
2) No objective definition of function or functional information; and,
3) An inability to quantify this mythical dimension of information.
Your problems are multiplying.
No, you can't just write off the information being functional like that. When you see a manufacturing plant you know and infer it is designed. Well we found a manufacturing plant in the construct of proteins!
The LORD Exists: http://www.godandscience.org/
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8