(January 15, 2019 at 10:42 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Hi all just to reiterate what i learn't here
Fact... The law, our morals, your morals, wester civilization. They're all from Christianity.
Factually and provably wrong.
Christianity has some good morality, and it has some bad morality. You just cherry pick the Christian morality that agrees with your innate sense of morality. ignore the stuff that doesn't, and consider your morality based on Christian values.
Why don't you just own your own morality and ethics, without attaching a mythological source to them.
Quote:Fact... Atheism has no objective morals which people can refer to.
Atheism is the disbelief in the existence of gods. Full stop. Why would you expect there to be any sort of morality, objective or otherwise connected to it?
Most atheists are also secular humanists. Humanism is a great source to inform our morality.
And by the way, Christianity offers no objective morality either, since the god could change his mind about what is moral.
Quote:Fact... Atheists just base their opinions on the existing Christian morals and cannot agree themselves, on several issues.
I don't get my morals from Christianity. I get my morals from my evolutionary history, natural empathy, altruism, reciprocity and a rational evaluation.
There were plenty of pre-Christian cultures that had comparable morality to Christianity.
Quote:Fact... Atheists are generally hostile to anyone who disagrees with their thoughts which they tend to believe is knowledge.
I am hostile to those that want to inflict their Christian morality on others.
Quote:Fact... New atheism is a creation of the millenial generation, snowflakes. They are entitled but have no culture or historical knowledge.
They get triggered easily by the opionions of others and truly believe that they know all there is to know about the universe.
Their views are very simplistic and lack much in depth thought. One only needs to see the responses to "why did humans create religions?" to see that.
BS.
There is no 'new atheism'. The so called 'new atheists' are just atheists that decided not to remain silent any longer. The fact that theists are triggered by the thought that they are losing their privileged status, is where the problem lies.
Quote:I've found it hard to define atheism but I've decided to call it a "techno religion". An ideology which is still finding its feet and writting it's doctrines.
Here, I'll define it for you, so you can move on. Atheism is the disbelief in the existence of gods.
Quote:A non-belief so strong that it blinds people with shallow hate. They cannot see that its actually tearing down society at a rapid rate.
This is provably wrong.
The most atheistic countries in the world (Sweden (80%), Norway (70%), Denmark (80%), Finland (60%), (Japan (60%) are among the happiest in the world. They have lower crime rates, lower infant mortality rates, better health care, better education rates, lower teen pregnancy rates than the vast majority of religious countries. Even the US.
Quote:Atheists are basically just kids who don't yet realize they have still much to learn.
This is laughable, and I don't even think it deserves a response.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.