(January 17, 2019 at 8:02 am)Acrobat Wrote:(January 17, 2019 at 6:57 am)Jehanne Wrote: I would like to get some perspective on how our resident evangelical Christians feel about their religion being in decline as a moral and political force, particularly, in the United States. Do you see this as yet another sign of The Apocalypse? And, even if so, how do you feel about being part of a shrinking minority, perhaps even facing discrimination over your LGBTQ stance? Do you look to the Courts to protect you, and in particular, are your views towards such entities, such as the ACLU, changing, as they will sometimes be the ones to protect your 1st Amendment rights?
I think in some way it's a good thing that Christianity is dying in the west, only be replaced by it the East. Western civilization has been a poor bearer of Christianity, and in my view the East will do it far more justice than we've ever done for it.
In other waysi don't think it's a good thing, have you ever seen right wing atheists? They are way worse than they're christian counterparts. There seems to naive assumption that Christianity and Right Wing ideology go hand in hand, that the decline in Christianity comes with a decline in the right, a growth of liberalism, but this is not the case, and much world seems to be shifting to the secular right. While the christian right has an obligation to moral values, the secular right does not, leaving it void of any restraining force or potential, and that could be ugly.
As far christianity decline as a moral force, I'd christianity is the only moral force, secular humanism as such, as merely moral suggestions, moral wishes. I don't know if in this sense it's in decline, unless it's being reduced to like 2 or 3 political issues, like abortions, and gay rights.
You better hope not. Russia is a far more conservative country that America and is a majority Russian Orthodox Christian. Run by a former KGB thug, who is a Christian himself.
"Christianity is the only moral force"? No that is your tribalism speaking. I am quite sure if you ask enough Muslims or Jews or Buddhists, they'd argue the same. And that is pretty narcissistic of a claim on a planet of 7 billion.
Ok, lets say suddenly all 7 billion humans suddenly believed in a magic baby with super powers? Do you think even then, there would only be one sect of Christianity and never any disputes or wars between Christians, and prisons wouldn't exist at all? Sorry, but past history proves there is no part of the globe, in any religion of the world, that has not had points of internal conflicts between the sub sects, not just with other religions.
