(January 17, 2019 at 9:55 am)Acrobat Wrote:(January 17, 2019 at 9:06 am)Brian37 Wrote: If America were to suddenly get rid of the constitution, the first people oppressed would be non Christians, but after a while the sub sects of Christianity would go back to the same barbaric tribalism Europe had prior to the age of Enlightenment.
Not really, if we suppose a right wing violent take over, the first people oppressed would be liberals, Jews like Ben Shapiro, and atheist like Richard Spencer would probably do well. In the age of Trump, all that matters is you toe the party line, not your religious affiliations, or lack there of.
Quote:I don't think you want to live in a world without western secular government. I am sorry someone sold you the BS that "secular" means godless, when the truth is it merely means "neutral, neither for or against, but treat equally'.
I support secular governments. Christianity in its original conception lacked any political power, or even pretense of acquiring it, and it was far more admirable and radical in that form, then once it took the thrown from Rome.
Quote:Um no, there has been plenty of cruelty between Catholics and Protestants and Baptists ect ect in it's history.
Yea, but not much now, they seem to get along just fine, in spite of their differences.
Damn you are ignorant of history. Even today if you go to Ireland, they literally have walled off communities between Catholics and Protestants. For you to claim that the different sects of Christianity get along is nonsense.
FYI, as far as Rome falling to Christianity, that was not because a God caused it, it was because the old polytheism fell out of favor.
The early Church Rome adapted simply replaced the brutality of the prior polytheism with the brutality of the early Church. It is a myth that every single pope in it's history was kind and non violent. Christianity was spread throughout Europe through force the same way The ancient Roman polytheists used force to create their dynasty.
Just so you know, the obelisk in St Peter's square was the same obelisk brutal tyrant Caligula stole from Egypt. The Church would claim it was a symbol noting the defeat of evil, but the reality is all that use of it was, was saying, "Now we are the top dog."
