(January 17, 2019 at 10:46 am)Yonadav Wrote:(January 17, 2019 at 10:27 am)Brian37 Wrote: Damn you are ignorant of history. Even today if you go to Ireland, they literally have walled off communities between Catholics and Protestants. For you to claim that the different sects of Christianity get along is nonsense.
FYI, as far as Rome falling to Christianity, that was not because a God caused it, it was because the old polytheism fell out of favor.
The early Church Rome adapted simply replaced the brutality of the prior polytheism with the brutality of the early Church. It is a myth that every single pope in it's history was kind and non violent. Christianity was spread throughout Europe through force the same way The ancient Roman polytheists used force to create their dynasty.
Just so you know, the obelisk in St Peter's square was the same obelisk brutal tyrant Caligula stole from Egypt. The Church would claim it was a symbol noting the defeat of evil, but the reality is all that use of it was, was saying, "Now we are the top dog."
Don't study history through the lens of a hobbyhorse issue. The violence between Catholics and Protestants in Ireland was more of an ethnic conflict than a religious one. The Catholics were from indigenous families that had been oppressed by British invaders who were Protestant. So it was a natives verses invaders conflict. The participants in such conflicts will always use inflammatory rhetoric about the ways in which the other side is different. Hence, the hateful religious rhetoric in conflicts in which the belligerents are of different religions.
Telling people that they are ignorant doesn't make you look like you are dominating the discussion. It just makes you look like you are trying to feel good about you.
Holy shit do I hate that dodge.
Yes religion caused the conflict between Catholics and Protestants, period.
Catholic is a religion, nothing more. Protestant is a religion, nothing more. Both are sub sects of Christianity. And both sects also exist outside Ireland as well.
I am not Irish myself, but I was raised a Catholic here in America, so it is an absurd claim that it is "ethnic".
I have the same problem when Jews and Muslims fight over Palestine/Israel and forget polytheists existed in that same land prior to either.
Same with Buddhism. Richard Gere is a pasty white American, who was not born in Asia, but calls himself Buddhist. Sammy Davis Jr is black, and called himself Jewish.
Nobody can change their skin tone or facial features, but there is plenty of evidence worldwide that humans do give up prior claims their parents and or society sold them, leave those positions for other religions, or ditch them altogether.
