(January 17, 2019 at 12:09 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(January 17, 2019 at 11:36 am)Yonadav Wrote: I personally haven't said anything about there being peace because of religion. Don't set up such an obvious strawman.
And you again argue my point for me by using examples like white baptists and black baptists. If they were of a different religion, you would be claiming that they are fighting over religion. I would point out that the conflict is racial with one side enjoying privilege and the other experiencing oppression. And then you would probably tell me that I am ignorant.
UGGGGGGG!
Now you use the word "racial". First you used "ethnic" next it will be "cultural."
Please do one thing, accept that I am not arguing against human rights. Then accept that I am not saying race and ethic or culture are things that do not exist, THEY DO. But merely as artificial constructs humans came up with, and yes, those things cause divisions. All I am arguing is that that there are enough people in religion who hide behind the words "race" "ethnic" and "culture". That ignorance is what allows things like the genocide of the holocaust, or the genocide of Native Americans or even today the mistreatment, abuse and murder by Buddhists of Muslims living in Myanmar.
"Atheist" is not a race, an ethic or cultural thing is it? White people are not the only atheists in the world. There are Irish atheists, and Italian atheists, and former Muslims and former Jews and former Hindus, and black atheists as well.
Again, I cannot escape my skin color or facial features. But I did give up my former religion.
If you want better relations between different races, ethnics, cultures, then it is paramount to not let anyone of any religion to use religious excuses to justify the tribalism between those artificial constructs.
You are the one who used the example of white baptists and black baptists. I pointed out that you are being wildly inconsistent. First you argue that people are fighting over religion, and then inexplicably tried to somehow backup your argument with the example of white and black baptists. You shot down your own argument.
You also shot down your own argument when you used Ireland's strife between Protestants and Catholics. I pointed out that the Catholics were Irishmen fighting British oppressors who were Protestants. You tried to use your own American Catholic upbringing to inexplicably disprove this, but only demonstrated that you aren't an Irishman fighting British oppressors.
You distort reality by viewing everything through an anti-religious lens.
We do not inherit the world from our parents. We borrow it from our children.