Morality

[Brian37]

If you are going to argue God doesn't have a cause, then the far more simple answer is to say that the universe would not need one either.

Otherwise if you claim everything has a cause or "author" then your God also has an "author".

Let me clue you in, "God" does have an author, humans, nowhere else.

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Everything doesn't have a cause, even though many atheists seem to have straw manned the first cause argument to suggest this. .

Every actualization of a potential has a cause, or whatever is contingent has a cause. 

"First Cause argument, there is no inconsistency, no sudden abandonment of the very premise that got the argument going.  Rather, the argument is that the only way to terminate a regress of actualizers of potentials is by reference to something which is pure actuality, devoid of potentiality, and thus without anything that needs to be, or even could be, actualized"

In some way the idea, that some form of the universe has always existed, that gave rise to everything is, can be considered a first cause as well. 

The difference between an atheistic first cause, and a theistic one, is that in theistic one intentional properties are included, a first cause that imbeds meaning and purpose into reality, moral facts, teleological aspects, a signifying of something rather than nothing. Or in other words the first causes posses elements of being, rather than non being. 


https://strangenotions.com/if-everything...aused-god/

Everything does not have to have a cause? I AGREE!

BINGO, stop right there. Keep reading until you get it.

The rest of your argument is simply gap filling, the same bad logic people of other religions use.

How about considering it is simply an argument you bought because it sounded good to you?

You, "Intentional properties are included"  in a theistic position?

Wow, crappy sky boss you have. I see nothing good about tornados, hurricanes, volcanos, deadly bacteria, famine, cockroaches, pedophilia, genocide. Nice "intent" your sky parent has.

I see them as natural sure, but not anything I want effecting me, and find your logic even more vile when kids die from those things.

So "God" intentionally allows 50 to 60 million humans worldwide to die from everything on average per year? 

"Intent" another doge to say, "I see pretty in life so god did it". Um no, there certainly are pretty things in nature but there is no magic to the good or bad that happen in nature. 

I see no intent in cancer. I see no intent in tornados or cockroaches. I simply see those things as part of nature.