(January 15, 2019 at 10:16 am)Divinity Wrote:(January 14, 2019 at 3:19 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: But what if you look at it this way: imagine that you are an architect who is also an atheist and that a priest orders that you design a Christian church for him would you do it? Do you think you have right to object?
I mean Supreme Court did rule in the favor of the baker stating "Creative professionals who serve all people should be free to create art consistent with their convictions without the threat of government punishment." and baking cakes is probably really going out on a limb to call it an art since it is basically cooking but I guess it is different then just let's say serving drinks or selling groceries.
Yes, why the fuck would you not?
Yeah why wouldn't you object? And I guess "you" could argue that making cakes is an art that is very template based--not much creativity--so why wouldn't he make a cake for gays?
Then I guess there is a fear there would be repercussions from this decision like some Christians walk to some powerful Jew in Hollywood like JJ Abrams and order from him to make a movie about how great Christians are arguing that he already makes movies by the numbers (templateish) and he can't refuse.
And then movie gets out and other Christian denominations watch it and say "This is not real Christianity" and they start WW3.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
