RE: The decline of evangelical Christians.
January 17, 2019 at 1:37 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2019 at 1:43 pm by Brian37.)
(January 17, 2019 at 12:27 pm)Yonadav Wrote:(January 17, 2019 at 12:09 pm)Brian37 Wrote: UGGGGGGG!
Now you use the word "racial". First you used "ethnic" next it will be "cultural."
Please do one thing, accept that I am not arguing against human rights. Then accept that I am not saying race and ethic or culture are things that do not exist, THEY DO. But merely as artificial constructs humans came up with, and yes, those things cause divisions. All I am arguing is that that there are enough people in religion who hide behind the words "race" "ethnic" and "culture". That ignorance is what allows things like the genocide of the holocaust, or the genocide of Native Americans or even today the mistreatment, abuse and murder by Buddhists of Muslims living in Myanmar.
"Atheist" is not a race, an ethic or cultural thing is it? White people are not the only atheists in the world. There are Irish atheists, and Italian atheists, and former Muslims and former Jews and former Hindus, and black atheists as well.
Again, I cannot escape my skin color or facial features. But I did give up my former religion.
If you want better relations between different races, ethnics, cultures, then it is paramount to not let anyone of any religion to use religious excuses to justify the tribalism between those artificial constructs.
You are the one who used the example of white baptists and black baptists. I pointed out that you are being wildly inconsistent. First you argue that people are fighting over religion, and then inexplicably tried to somehow backup your argument with the example of white and black baptists. You shot down your own argument.
You also shot down your own argument when you used Ireland's strife between Protestants and Catholics. I pointed out that the Catholics were Irishmen fighting British oppressors who were Protestants. You tried to use your own American Catholic upbringing to inexplicably disprove this, but only demonstrated that you aren't an Irishman fighting British oppressors.
You distort reality by viewing everything through an anti-religious lens.
How is it "inconsistent" to point out we are the same species?
Again, words like race, and ethnic and culture DO exist. And divisions are drawn based on those words. But those are words humans have made to denote differences between groups. That has nothing to do with the fact that we are the same species. That is why I say they are artificial construct humans made up.
Religion hides behind those constructs to allow those things to fester between different groups.
Humans no matter where they are born, all still are made up of Adenine, Guanine, Thymine and Cytosine. And going back far enough our species started out in Africa.
And please STOP saying I am anti religion. That is bullshit!
I am for human rights, but yea, I am against bad logic.
If you are going to say humans need to get along better, I would agree with that. But that does not have to mean our species clinging to the past.
I am "anti-religion" in the same context someone would be an "anti-unicornist".
I am not against human rights. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
I love my species POTENTIAL for compassion. I also love my species POTENTIAL for making discoveries. The only thing I disagree with is where my fellow humans claim those behaviors are coming from.
I am also anti Thor too, unless you think Thor really is the cause for lightening?
I think most humans are good, I simply do not buy their logic as to where they think our existence or morality is coming from. That does not make me anti human rights.
If I were "anti religion" in the context of human rights, I wouldn't simply stop at challenging the logic of it, I would demand the forced end of religion via government, and you will never see me claim to want to do that. I am simply challenging bad logic.