RE: Morality
January 22, 2019 at 12:22 pm
(This post was last modified: January 22, 2019 at 12:25 pm by Acrobat.)
(January 22, 2019 at 12:09 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(January 22, 2019 at 11:29 am)Acrobat Wrote: You appealed to empathy, as evolutionary component of your moral views.
And yes empathy is your personal feelings, even though others also have similar personal feelings.
Several people might share similar empathetic feelings and sensations when observing certain phenomena, like an innocent person being harmed.
No I did not claim empathy was a moral view, I simply said it is a product of evolution. Cruelty is also a product of evolution. It is still up to humanity how we interact with each other.
So morality is rooted in what humanity decides about how we ought to interact with each other? Like the consensus of our particular society and culture determines what is right and wrong? i.e a relativist view?
(January 22, 2019 at 12:07 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:(January 22, 2019 at 12:05 pm)Acrobat Wrote: No a moral realist, believes moral facts and moral values exist and "that these are objective and independent of our perception of them or our beliefs, feelings or other attitudes towards them. Therefore, moral judgments describe moral facts, which are as certain in their own way as mathematical facts." Or in other words a realist, believes in an objective moral reality, and not in morality as a human construct as subjectivist and relativist positions might convey.What part of this do you think is arguing with me?
Quote:This shouldn't be conflated with a moral subjectivist, who might consider certain garden variety facts, such as negative consequences as informing their moral judgements. Just because certain facts might inform your moral opinion, doesn't make you a moral realist.I thought we already cleared up the little known fact that moral realists and moral subjectivists were different things, lol?
Was there some question you had about non-natural moral realism, or some particular objection to the claim it makes....or no? That there are objective facts of good and bad...that these facts are not, themselves, natural.
I'm not too sure what I am suppose to be arguing with you about either, since I'm not even sure what your views are?
So you're a non-natural moral realist? That there are objective moral facts, that are not natural? If so can, you provide me an example of one?