(January 22, 2019 at 6:11 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(January 22, 2019 at 5:55 pm)Acrobat Wrote: The person-owner, and his tribe that he’s contributing to, with no real concern for the greater society or humanity as a whole.
God didn’t defer to anything.
I never appealed to the Bible in this argument about morality, so I never appealed to its credibility in this area either.
What is meaningful objective morality?
Is there an external reality called the Good, that places moral obligations on us, tells us how we ought to behave and live? That I ought serve it, over my own self interest?
In order for morality to be objective, it’s requires a reality independent of ourselves, that contains moral values, and moral aims and purposes. Not some cold disinterested reality, but one that’s concerned about our moral lives.
Is that what you believe? Like I do. If not than your moral realism is in doubt.
Um no, my morality is not in doubt, nor is that of any sane empathetic human.
It simply bothers theists that an atheist doesn't need a sky hero in order to figure out right from wrong.
Hurting others is bad, helping others is good. No magic, no super cognition needed to come to that conclusion.
Do you subscribe to moral realism?
