(January 22, 2019 at 7:20 pm)Acrobat Wrote:(January 22, 2019 at 6:34 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I ascribe to evolution. Not old mythology.
Evolution produces BOTH cruelty and compassion. I chose non violence and empathy beyond that.
You subscribe to old mythology, but that is your baggage, not mine.
Evolution is not a moral view.
Are you a moral realist, moral subjectivist, a moral relativist, a moral nihilist, etc...?
Or are you just confused, and don’t know really where your views on morality stand?
(January 22, 2019 at 6:34 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Why would it need to contain aims or purposes? We supply those handily.
Ah my suspicions that your just a confused relativist, appears to be true.
So it’s not the moral facts and values, that exist independently of “we” that reveal moral aims? But “we” do? So moral aims are a human construct?
If moral values and facts exist independently of us, then they define our moral aims, not us. If you disagree you should rethink your supposed moral realism.
Quote:Why would it need to be interested? We're interested enough. -How- could it be interested? Concerned? These are human attributes. Anthropomorphization of the cosmos. A god.
If a rock was telling me that I ought to do good, wouldn’t it be safe to say it’s interested in my moral life? If there’s a reality external to us human beings, in which moral facts and values exist, revealing that we should live good lives, as moral realism suggests, wouldn’t you say it’s interested in my moral life?
Quote:Are we discussing objective moralities..or gods?
The rock telling me I ought to do good, sounds like a little god doesn’t it?
Evolution is a a word denoting scientific observation. Just like the word "gravity" denotes the falling of an object.
The rock isn't telling you squat and is is absurd for you to even imply that is what I was claiming.
God/s/deities/super cognitions do not exist, so that also means humans cannot act or be a "God/god/s either.
I can no more be God or Allah or Vishnu than I can be Yoda.