(January 25, 2019 at 1:51 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:(January 24, 2019 at 10:15 am)bennyboy Wrote: Mind doesn't seem to be anything at all, except the capacity to subjectively experience.This is where things went through the looking glass, for me.
I think we can move beyond it, though, seeing the above. Since we both agree that the mind (or what very many people refer to as the mind) is doing alot of things, any underlying question about what the mind is doing, to what end (and I'm using the term very, very loosely) it could have been leveraged as an adaptation..is effectively settled.
You seem to be more concerned with what qualia specifically, as one of many things mind is up to, brings to the table. Model control theories posit that consciousness is an attention schema. That the subjective report can be leveraged to refine control of the finite operational assets of the system. This would be the evolutionary benefit conferred..the sort of thing that would make the evolution of consciousness "make sense". Mostly, because for any evoilutionary anything to make sense, it needs to refer to an inheritable biological structure or architecture or trait. Honestly, the very moment we divorce something (even conceptually) from the organ of contention..then there's really no sense in trying to make evolution make sense, because that's what evolution is about..and if whatever we're talking about doesn't have anything to do with that...then evolutionary biology doesn't have anything to do with -it-.
Evolution as viewed in terms of genetics and its persistence due to phenotypes that benefit fitness is about that.
But under the hood, we're really talking about energetic interactions which promulgate forward through time in a kind of causal ripple THROUGH DNA. I'd say that genetics as much represent the essence of moments (i.e. the ideas of them) as vice versa.