Morality

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We've decided to call the holocaust being bad a moral fact, remember?

What you and I might mean by this are two different things, you don’t subscribe to my form of realism. In an external reality that posses moral aims, or a transcendent moral law.

Or as the Buddhist scholar Bodhi puts it:

“. If morality is to function as an efficient guide to conduct, it cannot be propounded as a self-justifying scheme but must be embedded in a more comprehensive spiritual system which grounds morality in a transpersonal order. Religion must affirm, in the clearest terms, that morality and ethical values are not mere decorative frills of personal opinion, not subjective superstructure, but intrinsic laws of the cosmos built into the heart of reality."

You don’t believe in such a moral reality.

Not a value judgement, or an evaluative proposition.

If thats a moral fact, then, no, in a realists moral description it is neither a value judgement or an evaluative proposition.

It as an evaluative proposition, bad is a value judgement, as a result holocaust being bad is an evaluative judgement. Now for me evaluative propositions can be facts, but you on the other had reject this. As result your position contradicts itself, if evaluative proposition can’t be facts, then the holocaust being bad can’t be a fact.

You expect us to close our eyes and deny that that attaching a moral value of bad to the holocaust, isn’t an evaluative judgement. It’s like saying “it’s raining outside, but I don’t believe it.”

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Don’t know.

Give it some thought.

Once you’ve worked it out, you are well on your way to discovering what morality actually is.

Then we can discuss the biochemical processes, the algorithms (which is my interest/profession) and the political ramifications.

Sorry DLJ, these aren’t areas that i’m all that familiar with beyond your basic math courses.

If you want to draw a parallel with it and morality, by all means please draw that out for us. Playing a game where someone wants me to guess what they mean here, is not interesting to me.