The decline of evangelical Christians.

[Drich]

and you need to read what I specifically said before you go off half cocked 

What did I just say one post ago?!?!?

I said: what your witnessing is spiritual growth in the church that is all. (meaning there is a shift in hating the sinner as we hate sin) even if there isn't a need to hate homosexuals which causes another growth spurt in the church no one is allowing this sin to be taken off the books, just treated like any other sexual sin. Meaning homosexuals are simply being viewed as any other fornicator and adulterers. 

IE:

Just because we do not burn witches at the stake any more doesn't mean witch craft is not a sin. Like wise just because it is not cool to hate homosexuals in the church any more doesn't mean the church says it is ok to drill each other in your cans.. it simply means the church has moved past hatred towards the sinner. As any sin outside the confines of a sanctified marriage is a sin so too is homosexuality.

Someday, homosexuality will no longer be viewed as being a "sin"; that's my point.

for people like you it already isn't.

For people in the newest form of church simply don't see it as the unforgivable sin. now it may come common place as a 13 year old boy who   15 times a day, but in Christianity it will always be a sin. as it is ultimately about sex outside of the confines of a sanctified marriage. through the written history found in the bible God has never sanctified a marriage between same sex anything. 

But here's the thing. sin become irrelevant if you are saved. the law is only there to judge those who seek to be moral rather than admit sin and seek atonement.

do you understand what I am saying here and the impact that truly has?

We all sin or have sinned. and just one is enough to condemn us to hell. (be as self righteous no one has only sinned once or twice or just a few hundred times. we all sin maybe a few hundred times a day. hence we need atonement. if we have been atoned sin the law no longer becomes the standard from which our righteousness is determined. meaning our judgement on whether we deserve to go to heaven or not ceases to be about our sin and whether or not Christ has saved us.

However for the rest who think their morality is good enough the law remains as their determining factor on whether they deserve heaven or not. and again even if morally homosexuality is not a sin. it is according to the law as it is by nature a sexual relationship outside of a sanctified marriage which is the only form of marriage that God allows sex.

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Already getting there.

Sex for all Christians that is powerful, even holy.

We need to change how Christians talk about sex, says pastor Bromleigh McCleneghan. Instead of landing on extremes such as “Sex outside marriage is always a sin” or “God is uninterested in your sex life,” McCleneghan explores the Bible in conversation with the wisdom of theologians, ethicists, and psychologists to find a better way for Christians to understand and practice their sexuality in light of their deep faith.

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It is my belief once in a sanctified marriage there are no boundaries so long as both adults want to explore each other that way. even stuff that gae people may be persecuted for maybe permissible for the married couple. the song of Solomon shows a boundless lustful sanctified marriage situation. now compare the lust and carnal ferver between two passionate people to the demand for Chasity found in the catholic church and you can see how a book like this may seem over the top while in truth most of what it says could very well be founded in truth.

when this lady is questioned directly about sanctified marriages she point to how holy they are and she is not trying to change that. but she also 'thinks' sex outside of marriage is ok too. where does she get this? admittedly not from the bible but she takes god and the bible out of the equation and does something like what you all do. and tries to explain the mechanical nature of ownership in a society that is moving away from a nomadic existence where everything is shared to private ownership of lands live stock and women.

This is not a church view this is not even a general religious pov.. she even points out it is not a holy view, but rather she is trying to manipulate sin and redemption process by finding justification apart from God but in general sociology. Here's the thing with that. sociologists have no say in cannon. we do not stand before sociologists and are judged. all she is doing is culling off fringe members of the church who want a god in their own image. a god that will let them live in sin. rather than a god who simply forgives.

She is allowing the proud to keep the pride that will keep them from eternity. truly heart breaking.