RE: Dispatches From the Revolution
February 1, 2019 at 12:27 pm
(This post was last modified: February 1, 2019 at 12:31 pm by Brian37.)
(February 1, 2019 at 12:02 pm)Yonadav Wrote:(February 1, 2019 at 10:57 am)Brian37 Wrote: I really hate the misuse of the word "capitalism". "Socialism" is a form of government, "Capitalism" is not.
China allows the private sector. And despite what many think, Hitler did not outlaw the private sector, that still existed under his rule. But what he did with the private sector was to steal it from society and reward his cronies.
I agree with ending this type of greed though. The more you jack up prices like this guy paid, without raising wages for the rest of society, the more people get priced out of the ability to make ends meet and save money.
There is socialism already in America. The billionaires socialize the wins between themselves and shareholders when they win and socialize the losses on the tax payers when they lose. Bush's great recession is a prime example of that.
The problem isn't getting rid of the private sector. The problem is that we need to get back to pre Reagan regulations that enforce regulations on Wall Street and enforce anti monopoly concepts.
You really hate everything, and usually because you misunderstand it. That's textbook hatred from ignorance. Reich didn't misuse the words capitalism or socialism. He didn't say that capitalism is a form of government. You just ignorantly think that he did, so you hate it. And incidentally, socialism isn't a 'form of government'. Socialism is more of a form of economics in which a governing body owns the means of production. And capitalism is a form of economics in which income is derived from ostensibly private capital.
Socialism and capitalism are not mutually exclusive. Capitalism can't exist without a certain amount of socialism. Reich is an expert, and his complaints are about socialized costs that benefit the wealthy almost exclusively. It's this little thing called corporate welfare. Griffin is a welfare queen.
No I do not hate everything. I love my late mother. I love my pet cat. And as most long time members here know, I am a huge fan of ABBA.
Socialism is not mutually exclusive from capitalism. NO KIDDING..... But they still are not the same thing. Just like peanut butter and chocolate are not the same but can overlap and make a Reese's.
Just like it is a myth that all closed dictatorships ban religion. Cuba and China have plenty of houses of worship in them. Cuba is a majority Catholic nation and China is a mix of Buddhism, and other Asian religions. Russia even under Stalin was STILL a majority Russian Orthodox Christian, as it is still today.
What theocracies like Saudi Arabia and Iran and states like Cuba and China, ban, isn't religion, but ANY AND ALL DISSENT. Closed states will tolerate anyone who tows the party line. What oppressive closed states don't tolerate is any dissent, from any section of the population, not just religion.
Socialism and capitalism CAN overlap yes, but only one is a form of government, "Capitalism" merely means to "capitalize off the sale of resources" and there is is no nation, friend or foe alike that does not partake in the global market. You can only argue that some states do a better job at it than others, but that still does not change every nation needs resources.
I hate bad logic, not human rights. So please get that right.