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Identity Politics
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RE: Identity Politics
Is it possible that it didn't create the tribal atmosphere...but that instead..as the author argues, the tribal atmosphere has always existed and is the mode under which we all operate?  That failure to acknowledge this produces tribal disparity? That all politics, fundamentally, are identity politics?

Similarly, and as I was putting to yon, do you think it might be possible that "identity politics" has been weaponized as a way to make you eat your own by your identity opponents, not other leftists, but those in the right? That they've successfully framed the issue and infiltrated your groups cultural content to your detriment in absence of facts? What would you do if this were the case..how would you recognize it, and how would you, as liberals, push back?

and this part..is really interesting to me..

Quote:It has created a very tribal atmosphere where, if you belong to social group X, you better damn believe in A, B, C, D, E and F. If you belong to social group X, but only believe in A, B, C, E and F, but not D, you stand to be exiled and told that you're not truly part of social group X, but rather you're the enemy.
Do you not see this as, itself, a form of intra-tribal identity politics? Them deciding that you're not a "real liberal" and you deciding, in return..that they are not "real liberals"? Each of you considering each other the enemy.

That feeds back into the questions from before, who weaponized this, and who benefits from it's weaponization?
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Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 8, 2019 at 9:39 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Sal - February 8, 2019 at 10:56 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by EgoDeath - February 9, 2019 at 3:35 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Pat Mustard - February 11, 2019 at 11:00 am
RE: Identity Politics - by bennyboy - February 12, 2019 at 7:15 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 12, 2019 at 8:34 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Grandizer - February 12, 2019 at 9:39 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Grandizer - February 11, 2019 at 7:16 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 8:40 am
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 9:59 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 11:14 am
RE: Identity Politics - by EgoDeath - February 9, 2019 at 2:05 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 12:26 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 1:56 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 2:34 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by EgoDeath - February 9, 2019 at 2:55 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 2:58 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by EgoDeath - February 9, 2019 at 3:18 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 3:25 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by EgoDeath - February 9, 2019 at 4:06 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 4:23 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by EgoDeath - February 9, 2019 at 4:47 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 5:08 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 5:03 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 5:11 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 5:18 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 5:35 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 9, 2019 at 6:02 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 6:06 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Anomalocaris - February 9, 2019 at 6:21 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 9, 2019 at 6:24 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 10, 2019 at 9:33 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Anomalocaris - February 10, 2019 at 1:16 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by brewer - February 10, 2019 at 9:54 am
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2019 at 1:13 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 10, 2019 at 2:15 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 10, 2019 at 2:22 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 8:55 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 12, 2019 at 9:45 am
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 9:47 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 12, 2019 at 10:09 am
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 10:14 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 12, 2019 at 10:46 am
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 10:55 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 12, 2019 at 12:14 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 12:21 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 12, 2019 at 12:27 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2019 at 12:33 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Athene - February 13, 2019 at 7:46 am
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 14, 2019 at 12:30 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 14, 2019 at 12:55 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by Yonadav - February 14, 2019 at 2:22 pm
RE: Identity Politics - by The Grand Nudger - February 14, 2019 at 2:42 pm

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