Identity Politics

[The Grand Nudger]

Is it possible that it didn't create the tribal atmosphere...but that instead..as the author argues, the tribal atmosphere has always existed and is the mode under which we all operate?  That failure to acknowledge this produces tribal disparity?  That all politics, fundamentally, are identity politics?

Similarly, and as I was putting to yon, do you think it might be possible that "identity politics" has been weaponized as a way to make you eat your own by your identity opponents, not other leftists, but those in the right?  That they've successfully framed the issue and infiltrated your groups cultural content to your detriment in absence of facts?

Isn't it possible that this tribal atmosphere exists because of identity politics? Where is the evidence that all politics are identity politics?

Well, the author lays it out quite competently and explicitly that "identity politics" has been here, at least in the us.,..since before there was a us.  More generally, ask your self what politics is other than two (or more) groups with differences vying for power.

Where is the evidence that this is being weaponized by my "identity oppononents?"

Plainly stated in wingnut conservative rhetoric and all over the internet.,,wherem tellingly, liberal outlets have begun to breathlessly repeat conservative rhetoric (for any number of reasons good or bad).  Ultimately advancing the interests of the right wing identity. The constant rightward shift.  That "identity politics" is toxic and will destroy you is nothing more or less than a summary of the entire rightwing position on the left.

Is it possible that you're assuming that I even have "identity opponents?" Isn't it possible that my opponenets simply oppose my ideas and no my entire identity? Is the only summation of your identity the ideas you hold and nothing more? Can't we all just ask questions and wait for someone else to make a statement so we can retort with memorized talking points we learned from some book we read?

Ive assumed (?) that you're a liberal...mostly because you;ve indicated as much.  That means that you have de facto and de jure identity opponents.  

Isn't it possible you took one political science class at a community college in Colorado and now think you're an expert in politics?

Colorado?  I wish.  That place is fuckin gorgeous..and I'd be in the weed business!

Sure, plenty of things are possible. But the fact is, opposing someone's ideas is not opposing their identity. That's a false equivalence.

Political opinion and ideas either profoundly inform our identities..or, depending on who you're looking at, literally are their identities.  Alt Right ideology is an identity.  Paleoconservative ideology is an identity.  It;s a good question..though.  If someone asked you to describe who you are, would you include "liberal"?   Kindof a rhetorical question..right?

I ask these questions because it's interesting to me, and touches on other subjects of even greater interest. Basically fetish porn. As an outsider to the struggle between liberals and conservatives, though..I'm watching a slow moving coup and wonder how the liberal set perceives or experiences it. Like a game of mafia, seen from the side of mafia...do you notice/perceive/wonder that there's scum in your midst, and that this scum has convinced you that another towny is the real scum?