RE: San Fran to expunge over 9000 cannabis convictions
March 2, 2019 at 6:16 pm
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2019 at 6:20 pm by fredd bear.)
(March 2, 2019 at 12:56 pm)Yonadav Wrote:(March 2, 2019 at 11:54 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Yon, lol..thc stays in the system longer than alcohol. When a person says that we're incapable of determining whether a person was high when they were driving it's not about them being able to smoke a ton of weed..it's the fact that measuring concentration does not indicate relevant use.
It just tells you that you're dealing with a pothead. Not that the pothead is high at present moment.
It's gonna be really hard to legislate. I think we'll go draconian like usual.
You are getting as bad as Bwian about not understanding what you read. Did you notice the part where I said that we don't currently have a way of testing for it easily?
Breath analyzers currently exist that will detect use within the past couple of hours. But arguments are being made that we don't know what constitutes legal impairment. Personally, I think that any use at all within two hours prior to being tested should constitute impairment, since the only reason for smoking pot is to get high. We can have a single drink just for enjoyment, and not to get intoxicated. But everyone smokes pot exclusively to get high. So if you smoke pot and then drive, you're intentionally driving while high.
In Oz we have had random breath testing alcohol for decades. Polices set up on the side of the road, sometimes with a van for blood testing, and pull drivers in. If you refuse to be tested, you will be required to submit to blood test, if you refuse. You will be arrested.,and may be tested with force.
If your blood alcohol level is above .005 (I think) you receive an on the spot fine, and cancellation of your driver's licence. Laws vary from state-to-state, but not much.
A test for drug use has been included for several years, same conditions.
"Probable cause'' does not have quite the same cachet in Oz as in the US.
All states in Oz also have mandatory seat belt laws. This is due to our deep respect and admiration for ambulance para medics; so they won't be inconvenienced by having to look for the body.
In my state:
Blood Alcohol Limits SA
As in all other states in Australia, drivers with learner’s and probationary licenses are subject to 0.0% blood alcohol limits. This means that they cannot drive when they’ve had any amount of alcohol. If they are apprehended with a blood alcohol level higher than the prescribed limit then the learner’s license will be cancelled and he will have to take the driver’s practical test all over again. The probationary license will have to revert to the previous license he had.
Professional drivers or those who drive vehicles for hire to carry goods or passengers are also required to maintain a 0.0% blood alcohol concentration. For all holders of full licenses, the blood alcohol limit is 0.05%. If the drink driver’s blood alcohol concentration is higher than 0.05% but not higher than 0.08% this will be dealt more serious penalties. Blood alcohol concentration which is higher than 0.08% will mean that the driver will automatically lose his license. Driving with blood alcohol concentration levels which are higher than 0.15% is an indictable offense.
http://www.drinkdrivinglaws.com.au/sa/bl...limits.php
