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Someone I know believes in the Devil but not in Hell
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RE: Someone I know believes in the Devil but not in Hell
(March 8, 2019 at 8:09 am)Der/die AtheistIn Wrote: So this man I know believes the devil existsl. I did say the word devil a few times and I have a plush devil, because of this the guy thinks I will get "negative energy". I once told him I don't believe in demons and he gesticulated a circle, said that God is in the center and the devil somewhere in that circle as well. Then I lied that I believe him so that he'll leave me alone.
The same guy said he doesn't believe in Hell. He specifically stated there is no Hell, after you die, God won't judge you, you're  going to regret what you did wrong yourself.
What if someone doesn't regret their deeds? morality is subjective after all. There are evil people who don't regret hurting others. Are they gonna get away scot free? I do believe that some get scot free in real life (not in the afterlife, I don't believe in it), but I'm not claiming there is a great moral force.
I really don't get this guy. He claims the Earth is round and the people who wrote the Bible were wrong about it being flat, but God created men and evolution is wrong. He also doesn't believe that the atrocities made by God in the old Testament are literally real, but believes that there is a devil.
He already peeks and chooses what to believe, why believe in the Devil? It's not comforting. Why doesn't he just say the devil is a metaphor? Nobody else he knows is afraid of a plush devil, so why him?

Why do you care what they believe? You are as bad as the most judgmental religious people who are overly interested in the beliefs of others. I think that you believe in crazy things that make you a bad person. In other discussions, you talked about your belief that you should 'punish' people by withdrawing from them socially. I mean, sure, you should probably withdraw socially from people whose presence in your life is not healthy for you. That's just common sense. But when you do it to 'punish' them, you're just a self absorbed asshole. But you believe that you should 'punish' people. My guess is that no one likes you anyway, so you are really just rewarding them with your delusions of punishment. But the point is that you believe in crazy things, and I'm making a point of judging you as aggressively as you judge others.

I don't know much about the devil. I know about hasatan-- the adversary. It makes sense to me that someone could believe in an adversarial entity like the devil without believing in hell.
We do not inherit the world from our parents. We borrow it from our children.
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RE: Someone I know believes in the Devil but not in Hell - by Yonadav - March 8, 2019 at 8:47 am

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