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Active shooter in NZ
RE: Active shooter in NZ
(March 17, 2019 at 9:48 am)EgoDeath Wrote:
(March 17, 2019 at 1:49 am)Amarok Wrote:  Actually it isn't cheaper not just for 50 years but for the rest of their lives .


And the reason is ?

What do you mean?

You should be. Just because one can point out drastic cases like spree killers and serial killers, still does not change the cost to tax payers long term.

The cost of appeals is far higher in death penalty cases than merely giving them life in prison with no parole. 

And the other problem with it, as with even other crime, is that someone who doesn't have deep pockets to defend themselves, are far more likely to be hurt by the justice system, than a wealthy person accused of the same if innocent. Once you end their life, you can't bring it back if it is later found out they are innocent. Many people have been let off death row too because evidence proved they didn't do it. 

The death penalty is not a deterrent, and really is nothing more than state sponsored revenge.

You do not protect the accused because you like what they are charged with, you protect the accused for the greater long term attitude that we should not become a mob rule society. 

In a perfect world you'd be right that someone should forfeit their life for mass murder or serial killers. But in the real world innocent people get accused, and those without money to defend themselves are far more likely to be over charged, and or plead out even if innocent, or get wrongfully convicted. 

And since I am a tax payer too, please don't speak for me. The death penalty just on cost alone, is enough for me. Killers can still be put in super max prisons and contained without the extra cost.
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Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 14, 2019 at 10:26 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by ignoramus - March 14, 2019 at 10:39 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Fireball - March 14, 2019 at 10:39 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 15, 2019 at 12:07 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 14, 2019 at 10:44 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 14, 2019 at 10:54 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Sal - March 15, 2019 at 12:35 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 15, 2019 at 12:36 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 15, 2019 at 12:40 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 14, 2019 at 11:24 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 14, 2019 at 11:29 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 15, 2019 at 12:40 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 5:07 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 15, 2019 at 5:39 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 15, 2019 at 5:51 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 6:19 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 16, 2019 at 2:34 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by zebo-the-fat - March 15, 2019 at 6:08 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by DodosAreDead - March 15, 2019 at 6:29 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 15, 2019 at 6:49 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Nakara - March 15, 2019 at 6:31 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 7:19 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 6:33 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by zebo-the-fat - March 15, 2019 at 6:54 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 15, 2019 at 6:59 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by zebo-the-fat - March 15, 2019 at 7:05 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by ignoramus - March 15, 2019 at 7:21 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 15, 2019 at 7:56 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 8:38 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 15, 2019 at 8:07 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Figbash - March 15, 2019 at 8:13 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 15, 2019 at 8:15 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 8:37 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 8:40 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 9:06 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 9:24 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 9:52 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 10:15 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 9:55 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Duty - March 15, 2019 at 10:54 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 12:03 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 2:25 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 15, 2019 at 3:54 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 4:12 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 15, 2019 at 12:47 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 2:09 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 15, 2019 at 6:14 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by chimp3 - March 15, 2019 at 8:32 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 10:44 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 3:51 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by brewer - March 15, 2019 at 11:40 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Deesse23 - March 15, 2019 at 1:01 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by tackattack - March 15, 2019 at 11:47 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 15, 2019 at 6:21 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 12:48 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 15, 2019 at 2:15 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 2:41 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 2:54 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 2:55 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 3:12 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 3:14 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 3:31 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 3:36 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 4:01 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 5:05 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 5:13 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 5:23 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 15, 2019 at 7:22 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Belacqua - March 15, 2019 at 7:30 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 5:07 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by arewethereyet - March 15, 2019 at 5:40 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 5:43 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 6:03 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 6:24 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Belacqua - March 15, 2019 at 6:28 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 6:41 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Belacqua - March 15, 2019 at 7:05 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 7:33 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 7:38 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 8:02 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Belacqua - March 15, 2019 at 7:48 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 7:57 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Belacqua - March 16, 2019 at 12:55 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Fake Messiah - March 16, 2019 at 1:24 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 16, 2019 at 7:27 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 16, 2019 at 8:00 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by arewethereyet - March 15, 2019 at 7:35 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 7:39 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 15, 2019 at 7:47 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by arewethereyet - March 15, 2019 at 7:48 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Amarok - March 15, 2019 at 9:08 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Fireball - March 15, 2019 at 10:23 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Amarok - March 15, 2019 at 10:44 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Fake Messiah - March 16, 2019 at 12:35 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 7:45 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Stoneheart - March 15, 2019 at 11:20 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Peebo-Thuhlu - March 16, 2019 at 10:00 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 16, 2019 at 6:49 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by EgoDeath - March 16, 2019 at 8:46 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 16, 2019 at 9:27 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by EgoDeath - March 16, 2019 at 9:52 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 16, 2019 at 10:48 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by EgoDeath - March 16, 2019 at 10:57 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 17, 2019 at 5:52 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 17, 2019 at 1:15 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Duty - March 17, 2019 at 4:00 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Fake Messiah - March 17, 2019 at 4:23 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Amarok - March 17, 2019 at 1:49 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by EgoDeath - March 17, 2019 at 9:48 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 17, 2019 at 10:46 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 17, 2019 at 5:48 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Amarok - March 17, 2019 at 1:32 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by EgoDeath - March 17, 2019 at 6:56 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 17, 2019 at 7:17 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by EgoDeath - March 17, 2019 at 8:04 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Amarok - March 18, 2019 at 8:53 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by EgoDeath - March 19, 2019 at 4:22 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 17, 2019 at 8:18 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Fake Messiah - March 17, 2019 at 8:43 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Duty - March 17, 2019 at 9:00 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by downbeatplumb - March 17, 2019 at 9:07 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Duty - March 17, 2019 at 9:15 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 17, 2019 at 10:43 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Duty - March 17, 2019 at 12:59 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 17, 2019 at 12:03 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 17, 2019 at 12:53 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Brian37 - March 17, 2019 at 1:19 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 17, 2019 at 1:14 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 17, 2019 at 1:46 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 17, 2019 at 4:26 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Peebo-Thuhlu - March 17, 2019 at 6:07 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 18, 2019 at 1:16 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Peebo-Thuhlu - March 18, 2019 at 4:03 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by fredd bear - March 17, 2019 at 6:45 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 17, 2019 at 7:25 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 17, 2019 at 7:38 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by WinterHold - March 18, 2019 at 2:35 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Rev. Rye - March 17, 2019 at 9:21 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 17, 2019 at 9:35 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Peebo-Thuhlu - March 17, 2019 at 9:36 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by robvalue - March 18, 2019 at 11:59 am
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Duty - March 18, 2019 at 1:02 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2019 at 12:29 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by robvalue - March 18, 2019 at 2:08 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 18, 2019 at 12:36 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 18, 2019 at 5:49 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Deesse23 - March 18, 2019 at 12:53 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Duty - March 18, 2019 at 2:19 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 18, 2019 at 3:27 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 18, 2019 at 4:13 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Deesse23 - March 19, 2019 at 12:13 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Yonadav - March 18, 2019 at 7:37 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 21, 2019 at 7:02 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 19, 2019 at 5:59 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Stoneheart - March 19, 2019 at 6:24 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Grand Nudger - March 20, 2019 at 3:37 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by Stoneheart - March 21, 2019 at 6:52 pm
RE: Active shooter in NZ - by The Valkyrie - March 21, 2019 at 7:00 pm

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