RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
March 21, 2019 at 11:54 pm
(This post was last modified: March 22, 2019 at 12:04 am by CDF47.)
(March 20, 2019 at 10:58 pm)fredd bear Wrote: "The entire OT regarding the Messiah was about Jesus. Read Daniel's prophecy and Isaiah 53."
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I just read them. Complete bullshit. Neither provides a clear and unambiguous prophecy about the Messiah. Each is as Christian apologists like prophecy to be; vague enough to be open to interpretation.
Below are some reasons why Jesus could not possibly have been the Messiah;
Jews have been mortally offended by christian claims Jesus was the Messiah since the beginning;
Christians declared Jesus was the son of god, and worshipped him. The called him "Christ".This is from the Greek, 'Christos' and means 'anointed' IE King; The literal meaning of Mashiach (Messiah)
According to Jewish prophecy: The Mashiach is to be a warrior king, like king David. He is most definitely NOT divine.. He will not die prematurely. His coming will herald a period of world peace. These conditions are non negotiable ,no matter how Christians apologist try to spin it.
There are more. I'll get a link for you to read if you are not simply too threatened by an opposing view.
The Jewish notion of the messiah is far more compelling to me than to the crude Christian cherry picking and dubious interpretations of scripture . :
"The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page. "
http://www.jewfaq.org/mashiach.htm
Of course I realise that a few words from some bloke on a forum, , will not be near enough to undo deeply held, blind ,dogmatic beliefs. I've mentioned before, in the main, Christian apologists are impervious to reason or facts. The above was written to humour myself, not to change what passes for your mind.
Quote the source of the Jewish beliefs of their Messiah and I will quote Scripture showing Jesus as the OT Messiah. The Jewish people do not even recognize their own Savior. He came to the Jew first and then to the gentiles. There are Jewish-Christians, however, which He may be happy with.
(March 21, 2019 at 4:35 am)TwoKnives99 Wrote: He allows evil to run its course before He destroys it.
Okay, so what beneficial purpose does evil serve?
A lesson for free will beings not to rebel against their maker. A lesson on how to live righteously in God's sight.
(March 21, 2019 at 5:37 am)robvalue Wrote: This is an interesting guy I’ve been studying (now sadly deceased) who had some ideas which actually line up with the title of this thread. I’m not sure what to make of it yet. He proposes a human origin theory that lies somewhere between creationism and direct evolution.
Interesting.
(March 21, 2019 at 6:54 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:
Probably not far from your beliefs. Some atheists believe we were seeded here by aliens. That just begs the question though of who designed the aliens. I don't believe there are aliens as we have been searching far and wide for a long time and found nothing.
(March 21, 2019 at 7:26 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:It has not become much better. It is in a constant state of war and chaos world wide and deliberate fear mongering,...(March 20, 2019 at 9:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The entire OT regarding the Messiah was about Jesus. Read Daniel's prophecy and Isaiah 53.
(March 20, 2019 at 9:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote:(March 20, 2019 at 7:22 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Which makes your god evil.
How many animals did adam name?
If you saw a child about to be raped, would you intervene or just watch?
(March 20, 2019 at 9:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I believe he named many animals.Which ones did he not name and why.
(March 20, 2019 at 9:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I would intervene. This is a fallen planet for sure.Your immoral god never has. He just watches like a perv. This is not a fallen planet. That is just another dumb claim for which you have no evidence.
(March 20, 2019 at 9:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Maybe that is why shock is designed into our system. Just a thought.WTF?
(March 20, 2019 at 9:13 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I don't know man, this world is horrible.No it isn't. Some parts are but nothing approaching most or a majority of it. Over time it has demonstrably become a much better place. No thanks to your stupid god.
(March 21, 2019 at 3:09 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:Quote:The word is calamity. I went over this before.
You did claim it before. You didi not support you translation, or provide any scholarly reference.
And you are not competent to opine on the translation of Hebrew, now, are you.
I happen to be.
You can assert this shit until you're blue in the face. It doesn't change the FACT that you have nothing but bullshit.
There is no "scientific" evidence for any god. Prophecy was NEVER intended to predict the future, and much of it never did happen ... that is part of your Fundamentalism.
Again, he allows evil to run its course but the Bible is clear He plans to destroy evil in the lake of fire.
(March 21, 2019 at 6:54 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:
Back to guns momentarily so we don't get too off course from the thread but I just bought my first AR. I ordered a Colt LE6920 AR-15 (law enforcement edition). Chrome lined barrel based on military M4. The closest thing to a rifle I owned before this was the Mossberg 500 I told you about.
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Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8