How would you react to finding out you were making out with a transsexual?

[Yonadav]

A reasonable person can anticipate that a normal man will be upset if he discovers the "girl" he's been hot and heavy with either had or still has a penis.  It's not really fair for that person to withhold that information, and then pretend to be surprised when things go really bad really fast upon discovery.

What about though if you know that the other person will never find out?

All you then is a sexual encounter that you both enjoy. Where's the harm in that?

If trans relationships were very common, or generally acceptable, then it wouldn't really be necessary to let a new romantic partner know your background.

Transsexuals may not be very common, but neither are all the other characteristics I mentioned that may turn people off. But there are so many of them to list in advance. Why should transsexuality be the one being singled out as the only one needing to be revealed?

By the way, putting "girl" in quotation marks like that is deeply insulting and invalidates and negates many people's core existence through no fault of their own. People who are already some of the most marginalised and disenfranchised in the population. I thought you might need to know what you are actually achieving by doing that in case you didn't realise. If you did know what you were doing, then I would personally be ashamed to be you. Do you reveal your bigoted spiteful nature to potential sexual partners in case it puts them off you?

Here's the thing. Naming a bunch of stuff that men don't feel violated by is obfuscation.  You are completely ignoring the fact that a very, very large number of men would feel violated. People like you piss me off. I've been dealing the trans rights and trans ethics for pretty much my entire life. For you, it's just an ostensibly liberal issue for you to posture with. For me, it's always been something where I have to take the feelings of other people very seriously.

A couple of posts back, you griped about this never being a trans-man issue. You know, as if your experience in some silly internet discussions is representative of the issue. I assure you that trans-men also have this issue of informed consent to contend with.