(April 2, 2019 at 11:59 pm)Yonadav Wrote:(April 2, 2019 at 10:24 pm)tackattack Wrote: I think it’s better not to care about other people’s base reactions and care more about their thoughts and intent. Throwing the baby with the bath water smacks of waste and unresolved issues. If you don’t care it’s easier to analyze a situation and manipulate it towards your goal. Some would say that’s sociopathic though. I don’t think a normalized person could divorce themselves from emotion entirely. Because at its simplest element caring is one of the easiest ways to shape and focus will into action.
I think that your analogy about throwing out the baby with the bathwater is backwards. The baby gets thrown out with the bathwater over, and over, and over, and finally you just stop caring.
I'm not arguing that it's not a loop, or that it's not desensitizing. I'm simple positing that emotions are a driving force for good and bad actions that can't be easily divorced from cause. When we want something and are excited about it, it is a positive loop reinforcing our creativity and investment in a topic. When we are pessimistic (or less feeling than we once were) about something, we are more apathetic,which could feed a negative feedback loop. ie. This jerk always does x and he'll never change, I don't care about his opinion anymore. When you could be excited that This jerk always does x, but didn't this time, I wonder if he has a new insight I might learn from.
Caring, or feeling emotion about something, engages an emotive amplifier to our feedback loops. A more apathetic approach might prevent us from spiraling down on a topic, but it also prevents us from acting positively about a subject. If you're more apathetic about certain topics, I'm advising you should identify why it doesn't interest you anymore (assuming it did once). If it's not an effective use of your time and energies without the emotive amplifier, then don't waste your time discussing it, that's being a good steward of your energies. If it's because you have unresolved bias issues, communication issues, repressed emotions it's not. Jung always believed they will bite you in the ass eventually.
As far as your recent discussion on bias, you can't destroy someone's framework. While you're working on your own Johari window realize that "the other" category is populated with people that are looking through the tint of their own glass. Sometimes it's good to get a completely different tinted input, it's one of the reasons that I'm here. It helps me learn to communicate better. Much like women and men speak different languages, different ideologues speak and see through different tinted windows. Just try a different tack to get your points across if you want to.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari