RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
April 11, 2019 at 1:11 am
(This post was last modified: April 11, 2019 at 1:20 am by CDF47.)
(April 10, 2019 at 1:29 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: You lied when you said you weren’t just using claims as an argument even after I quoted you doing exactly that, lol.
That was not a lie. I hope your LOL is a "just kidding" because I was clear that I saw those as facts and not just claims.
(April 10, 2019 at 2:56 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:(April 10, 2019 at 12:35 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Please.See how easy it is to make the monkey man dance? All you have to do is crank the organ, lol.
What are you talking about? You can't even point to one post proving I lied about something.
What are you rambling about now?
(April 10, 2019 at 4:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(April 10, 2019 at 9:55 am)CDF47 Wrote: He will destroy it when He decides. It is His will.
Something not designed would not be fine-tuned as we fined in the universe and living systems.
If your god could destroy evil today but refuses to do so, then he/she/it/housecat is evil.
Give an example of such an undesigned thing.
God uses sin/evil in a sinless way. God is perfectly holy and He combats evil and will destroy it in hell.
Everything in this universe is designed I believe although He allows degrees of randomness.
(April 10, 2019 at 6:04 pm)possibletarian Wrote:(April 10, 2019 at 9:55 am)CDF47 Wrote: Something not designed would not be fine-tuned as we fined in the universe and living systems.
You are assuming humans are a special kind of life, how do you know different types of life could not exist had the universe worked differently ?
Sure we can point to lots of things which if they were not as they are would mean life (at least as we know it) could not exist, that though would apply to any life that evolved and it's evolution being reliant on things being as they are. I really don't think fine tuning arguments are as strong as you think they are.
Under your argument even the most destructive misery causing bacteria or disease could not exist had your god not fine tuned it to be so from the very beginning of creation.
The universe is designed perfectly for life to exist. If any of 30 or so constants were changed, some by unimaginably small amounts of change, then life would not exist. DNA is then further fine-tuned to the extent that it contains functional genetic digital information.
This is a fallen broken world which is why there is evil, calamity, disease,... It is due to man's first sin and every sin since in thought, word, and action.
(April 10, 2019 at 7:34 pm)Succubus Wrote:(April 10, 2019 at 11:26 am)CDF47 Wrote: I am a Christian man that respects Behe for his knowledge on molecular machines and his bravery to speak up about it.
Was it his bravery that led him to admit this, or was it the fact that he was three cornered and there was nothing else he could say?
Quote:There are no peer reviewed articles by anyone advocating for intelligent design supported by pertinent experiments or calculations which provide detailed rigorous accounts of how intelligent design of any biological system occurred.
Michael Behe: October 18 2005
So there you have it; straight from the lying bastards own mouth.
"We have nothing to backup our claims".
It's a pity you don't have the same respect for the American judicial system.
Quote:For the reasons that follow, we conclude that the religious nature of ID [intelligent design] would be readily apparent to an objective observer, adult or child.
John E Jones December 20, 2005
I will give you this; you're not as long-winded as the performance artist in the other thread.
Praise be.
Based on videos I saw with him and his body language and tone, he is definitely behind his own claims.
Provide the rest of the paragraph of that quote from Behe. I would guess something is out of context.
The LORD Exists: http://www.godandscience.org/
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8