RE: I Don't Care
April 13, 2019 at 7:18 pm
(This post was last modified: April 13, 2019 at 7:33 pm by bennyboy.)
(April 13, 2019 at 6:49 pm)Mathilda Wrote: With all due respect? You know nothing about the struggle of trans people and you dehumanise their existence by refusing to see beyond their medical history or what they look like all the while complaining about being dehumanised yourself. And then you white knight a misogynist and transphobe because he claims to be transssexual. I'd accuse you of being a hypocrite but I suspect that you are actually willfully ignorant.
Have I ever attempted to dehumanize anyone, ever? Did I refuse to see someone beyond their medical history or what they look like? I don't think that happened.
Let's be crystal clear, here. I think 100% of the time-- 100%, mind you-- it's best to express restraint when it comes to belittling others. The internet just doesn't have to be that place-- it takes complicity from all those who hide behind their anonymity to express the worst side of themselves to make it what it is, but I think we can choose not to do that.
(April 13, 2019 at 7:14 pm)Mathilda Wrote:(April 13, 2019 at 7:07 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Mhhhmmhhh. That was 10 years ago, and I learned from it.
So. . . are you in favor of calling people pieces of shit, or calling trans people "creature" or "it" online? If so, I think you're on the wrong side of right.
Bennyboy please stop pretending to care about trans people. Your post above suggesting that the PC crowd are stopping trans people curing themselves with therapy leading them to self harm, presumably you mean by transitioning, shows you do not. You clearly think of trans women as men and that is the gravest insult you can give them. So cut it out and just be honest.
It's not right to put words in my mouth, and then declare me dishonest if I don't accept them as my own.
It's a particularly strange context-- I'm advocating for moderation of insulting language, because we don't know who's behind the posts we are reading, and what harm over-the-top language might be doing to someone. I'm advocating for especial care in demeaning trans people, because I know about the psychological problems associated with gender dysphoria. People aren't just born trans in the way that they're black or white, male or female-- the troubles run deeper than that-- and I don't think you will disagree with that, will you?
Whatever you think about my motivations or my sincerity, can we not agree that calling people pieces of shit, or calling trans people "creature," are things we can live without? I'll happily be called a hypocrite a million times over, if anyone at all will agree that maybe we shouldn't use internet forums as dumping grounds for the worst in us.
(April 13, 2019 at 7:08 pm)Shell B Wrote: He could've just told us about that experience without being a dick. What's the point of an embargo now? That should've been his default since he joined our community. It wasn't, and so people returned the favor. Boohoo.
"Should" implies a lot of philosophical ideas about the agency of free will. It seems likely to me that Yonadav is compelled to behave that way-- and if we can't get past the obvious chip-on-the-shoulder and ask him about his background and motivations, we'll never get to understand how people arrive at that place. For all we know, he's been through mountains of shit, and online forums are the only place where he can express the anger he feels.
