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Didn't Nero launch Christianity?
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RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity?
(April 14, 2019 at 10:24 am)Acrobat Wrote:
(April 14, 2019 at 8:57 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Actually Paul constantly claimed that he has received his knowledge directly from Jesus. Meaning no apostles and no actual Jesus, no oral tradition, that it all came down from heaven direct to his ear, either via another vision of his Christ or the Lord God himself; like

Well, Jesus was already dead when Paul converted, so clearly he never spoke to the historical Jesus. But it’s clear in Paul’s writing that the he viewed Jesus’s as a real historical person, born of the flesh, with an earthly mother, killed by earthly rulers. He even met and interacted with his disciples and brother.

So your suggestion that Paul didn’t believe in a historical Jesus is just plain stupid. I doubt you’ve even read the epistles, and just parroting nonsense you picked up from others.

Except I just showed you how Paul said he got it from Jesus within him and not from anyone else. Especially if he met Jesus disciples, as you claim, then Paul's teachings wouldn't be different from the ones he preached to his disciples in Gospels, like here are few examples:

In Matthew 10:5 and 15:24 Jesus proclaims that he is strictly here just for the Jews and not for the Gentiles (whom he even sometimes refers as dogs) like "Salvation is of the Jews" (John 4:22); but Paul's Jesus is total contradiction because he says "The Lord has commanded us, saying, I have set you to be a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the uttermost parts of the earth" (Acts 13:47), "Henceforth, I [Paul] will go unto the Gentiles" (Acts 18:6), and "I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles" (Romans 15:16)

Or one of the most famous Jesus proclamations in Matthew 5:17-19 that he has come to fulfill the law of the prophets, I mean he is clearly for it; but Paul on the other hand again speaks about some different Jesus because in Romans 7:4 he says, "My brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ" and in Galatians 3:13 he says, "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law."
I mean these are without doubt as different Jesuses as you can get.

In Acts 20:35 Paul says, "Remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, 'It is more blessed to give than to receive.'" Nowhere in Gospels does this Bible's Jesus make this statement. And on and on...

So it seems that you are the one who is parroting something to which you are oblivious about.
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Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Fake Messiah - April 12, 2019 at 7:53 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by downbeatplumb - April 12, 2019 at 8:35 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 12, 2019 at 9:00 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Fake Messiah - April 12, 2019 at 11:50 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 12, 2019 at 12:00 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Fake Messiah - April 12, 2019 at 12:56 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Succubus - April 12, 2019 at 7:19 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 12, 2019 at 9:18 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Fake Messiah - April 13, 2019 at 1:03 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 13, 2019 at 6:19 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Fake Messiah - April 13, 2019 at 7:21 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Amarok - April 13, 2019 at 11:56 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by madog - April 15, 2019 at 6:50 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Mister Agenda - April 12, 2019 at 9:03 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 12, 2019 at 9:09 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Pat Mustard - April 13, 2019 at 5:14 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Fake Messiah - April 13, 2019 at 6:13 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Pat Mustard - April 14, 2019 at 5:44 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 14, 2019 at 4:36 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Fake Messiah - April 14, 2019 at 8:57 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 14, 2019 at 10:24 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Fake Messiah - April 14, 2019 at 11:39 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 14, 2019 at 12:43 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Fake Messiah - April 14, 2019 at 2:17 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 15, 2019 at 7:15 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by madog - April 15, 2019 at 7:33 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Fake Messiah - April 15, 2019 at 10:00 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 15, 2019 at 11:36 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Fake Messiah - April 15, 2019 at 12:52 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Amarok - April 15, 2019 at 3:31 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by vulcanlogician - April 14, 2019 at 1:12 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by vulcanlogician - April 14, 2019 at 1:26 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by The Valkyrie - April 14, 2019 at 7:01 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by The Grand Nudger - April 14, 2019 at 10:31 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by vulcanlogician - April 15, 2019 at 1:49 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Amarok - April 15, 2019 at 7:02 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Lemon Curry - April 15, 2019 at 7:41 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by madog - April 15, 2019 at 7:49 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Lemon Curry - April 15, 2019 at 7:58 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by vulcanlogician - April 16, 2019 at 8:08 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by The Grand Nudger - April 15, 2019 at 10:02 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Fake Messiah - April 15, 2019 at 10:49 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 15, 2019 at 3:31 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 15, 2019 at 4:01 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 15, 2019 at 4:43 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Fake Messiah - April 15, 2019 at 5:04 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 16, 2019 at 6:46 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by The Grand Nudger - April 15, 2019 at 11:25 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 16, 2019 at 8:05 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 16, 2019 at 8:50 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 16, 2019 at 9:23 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 16, 2019 at 10:02 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2019 at 10:10 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 16, 2019 at 11:41 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2019 at 11:46 am
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 16, 2019 at 12:06 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2019 at 12:12 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 16, 2019 at 12:36 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2019 at 12:40 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 16, 2019 at 1:41 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 16, 2019 at 2:20 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 16, 2019 at 3:43 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 16, 2019 at 4:01 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 16, 2019 at 8:28 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by The Grand Nudger - April 16, 2019 at 10:05 pm
RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity? - by Acrobat - April 17, 2019 at 5:32 am

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