(April 15, 2019 at 10:00 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(April 15, 2019 at 7:15 am)Acrobat Wrote: And definitely not something, that could be so speciously interpreted to suggest Paul didn't' believe Jesus was a historical person.
There are other reasons to suggest Paul didn't believe Jesus was a historical person like Paul never even mentioning Jesus' teachings or ministry, life, miracles, disciples, even when they were specially relevant to the point he was trying to make.
For starters Paul writing are directed toward communities of believers, to churches, and not to unbelievers, and are focused primarily on issues with the individual christian communities he's writing. But Paul mentions a variety of things about Jesus, that he was born of woman, was killed by earthly powers, resurrected, etc... He also mentions Jesus message throughout his writing, the Lord's supper, returning good for evil, on divorce, on the elevation of love, as the highest command and virtue. He also writes of his encounters with his disciples, and brother. Not sure how a supposed non-existing Jesus has a literal brother?
Quote:Seldom quotes Jesus? Make that never. There are only four times when Paul relays information he has received “from the Lord” – he never says from Jesus – and in none of these cases is he quoting any “teachings and sayings” of an earthly Jesus; or claiming to.
Lol, and any basic reader of Paul understands that when Paul says "the lord" he is referring to Jesus. In fact Paul quotes Jesus words from the Lord supper "This is my body, which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me." In the same way, he also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, every time you drink it, in remembrance of me." 1 Cor 11.
Plenty of early Christians, the early church etc.. have read the Epistles pretty intensively, and far more thoughtfully than you. None of them took away any of your specious inferences such as Paul didn't believe in a historical Jesus.
I don't if you actually believe the nonsense here you're suggesting, or if you're just trolling, but I've seen 9/11 truthers, and flat earth's make more convincing cases than you, lol.