RE: Didn't Nero launch Christianity?
April 15, 2019 at 4:01 pm
(This post was last modified: April 15, 2019 at 4:02 pm by Acrobat.)
(April 15, 2019 at 3:38 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:(April 15, 2019 at 3:31 pm)Acrobat Wrote: No, there were no Christians early or otherwise who didn’t acknowledge a historical Jesus, so I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Even the gnostic sects that would have stood to gain the most out of a non-historical Jesus, recognized that he existed in the appearance of the flesh.
It would have been so easy for you to just look this up.
Quote:Marcion held Jesus to be the son of the Heavenly Father but understood the incarnation in a docetic manner, i.e. that Jesus' body was only an imitation of a material body, and consequently denied Jesus' physical and bodily birth, death, and resurrection.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcion_of_Sinope
Marcion was the first to introduce an early Christian canon. His canon consisted of only eleven books, grouped into two sections: the Evangelikon, based on Luke with parts removed that did not agree with his views,[10] and the Apostolikon, a selection of ten epistles of Paul the Apostle (also altered to fit his views),[10] whom Marcion considered the correct interpreter and transmitter of Jesus' teachings. The gospel used by Marcion does not contain elements relating to Jesus' birth and childhood, although it does contain some elements of Judaism, and material challenging Marcion's ditheism.
If you think that any of that is what anyone is talking about when they use the term "historical jesus"..then you should probably have looked that up too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus
The idea that there was a faith based around a story of a god that appeared to people which was later historicized is the mythicist position.
Lol even Marcion, believed Jesus was a historical person, he even used a version of Luke for his scriptures even though he viewed the flesh as evil, Marcion still acknowledges that Jesus gave the appearance of being in flesh.
He didn’t believe that some of the events in the life of Jesus took place in some other realm, but in the historical place and time indicated in texts like Luke’s.
If that what early Christians believed as mythicist suggested, Marcion would been the sort of person that would have ascribed to such views, yet even didn’t.
Marcion held exactly the sort of views I indicated about Gnostics.
