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Christian utopia?
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RE: Christian utopia?
(May 15, 2019 at 1:42 pm)Smaug Wrote: If so than Middle Ages were far more 'utopian'.

explain how a tyrannical theocracy of one denomination allows for free practice of all of Christianity?

Did you not read or did you not understand the body analogy?

Let say the the church is like the body of Christ. meaning each denomination is repersented by a specific part. each part meaning arm leg hand eye er foot fingers ect ect has a different shape and a different function. The churches/denominations must all worship differently understand differently and operate differently because we are all a little different and our only Christian rules breaks down to loving God with all of our ablity first and our neighbor as ourselves second. So if we are all a little different and like minds come together to worship there will be different forms of worship.. because if people gifted with strong singing voices who's primary form of worship is singing are stuck in dry readings and endless interpretations then they are not following our greatest command to worship with all of what God gave them when they study! So their church must be full of song and singing inorder for them to follow the greatest command. However the intellectual who has no intrest in song can not follow the one ruleof worship if he is stuck in a church where they sing 95% of the time. He needs to be in that study church...

Just like toungue or mouth worships God with song and the eyes and mind worship god with reading and interpretation Both are needed for the body to be in compliance with our only rule concerning worship!

So then how could the body/how could the eyes and mind worship with all of their being how could the toungue and mouth worship with song if their was no singing how could the hands and feet worship if all where made to worship like one single denomination one part of the body where to worship?

There is no freedom to worship as a christian in or under a single denominational rule. Which is why the fore fathers told us congress shal not pass any laws concerning the establishment of religion. meaning the freedom to worship as God intended was why this country was above and beyond any other established nation when it came to religious freedom.

(May 15, 2019 at 1:58 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(May 15, 2019 at 1:48 pm)Drich Wrote: what did I say? I called it exactly you have no idea, how Christian even view the church themselves or God yet you hate.

My analogy about the church being the body if found in the bible. this is how "we" are taught to reconcile our different ways of worship and belief! yet you know nothing of it. and think because you are some sort of religious standard. my description comes from:

Hey Drich you don't have to lie to me that somehow all denominations are one because we all see all the time one denomination accusing the other of being fake, being the antichrist, whore of Babylon and using also the Bible and Jesus's words to accuse each other of being false prophets, sheep in wolf's clothing and so on.

Hey sport just READ THE PASSAGE just because you don't understand or this is your first time hearing this does not mean it was not meant to be this way from the beginning!

Ever wonder why Paul wrote a different letter to each different church? a letter to Rome a letter to Galacia a letter to thesslonica a letter to corinth.. If he where establishing one church one religion then why did he not like God write one letter one book of rules and send it to everyone and make them comply to one rule set?

Again because Christian is a religion without rules. It has two acording to Christ. Love God with all of your heart,mind Spirit and strength and the second is lke it. Love you neighbor as yourself. Again Paul wrote to each church differently because they had different ways of worship these differences today would quickly be identified as denominational differences.

John records in revelation a conversation Christ has with the 7 primary denominations of the church. Starting in revelation 1 (it is said all denominations fit in these 7 categories) even if there are only 7 churches Christ recognize he in revelation1 and 2 describe 7 distinct denominations and their failings and redemptive qualities.

So despite your unwillingness to let go of your primary school understanding of how the church works... a very simple and cursory look at not only how the bible was written but what the bible actually says, proves you completely wrong and your assessmentof the church rong
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Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 14, 2019 at 1:51 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by prhill - May 14, 2019 at 1:54 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by The Valkyrie - May 14, 2019 at 2:04 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 2:08 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by The Valkyrie - May 14, 2019 at 2:35 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Aegon - May 14, 2019 at 2:27 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by tackattack - May 14, 2019 at 2:33 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Aegon - May 14, 2019 at 2:37 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by vulcanlogician - May 14, 2019 at 6:55 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 2:45 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 3:18 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 14, 2019 at 2:56 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 14, 2019 at 2:58 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by The Valkyrie - May 14, 2019 at 2:59 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 14, 2019 at 3:10 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 3:13 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 3:04 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 14, 2019 at 3:17 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 3:20 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 14, 2019 at 3:27 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 3:35 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 14, 2019 at 9:48 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 9:04 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 15, 2019 at 1:34 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 1:48 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 15, 2019 at 1:58 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 14, 2019 at 3:33 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by onlinebiker - May 14, 2019 at 3:36 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 4:09 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 4:15 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 4:18 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 4:21 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 4:28 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 4:39 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 5:09 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 5:27 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 5:32 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 5:34 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 5:39 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by The Valkyrie - May 14, 2019 at 5:47 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2019 at 6:49 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 8:57 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by vulcanlogician - May 14, 2019 at 10:02 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by CDF47 - May 14, 2019 at 11:09 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by vulcanlogician - May 16, 2019 at 11:18 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by The Valkyrie - May 14, 2019 at 5:39 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Amarok - May 14, 2019 at 9:51 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Mister Agenda - May 15, 2019 at 9:29 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 9:38 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Mister Agenda - May 15, 2019 at 10:05 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 15, 2019 at 12:59 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 1:24 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by brewer - May 15, 2019 at 10:20 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 12:51 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 15, 2019 at 1:09 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by brewer - May 15, 2019 at 1:18 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 1:36 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by brewer - May 15, 2019 at 4:15 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 15, 2019 at 6:42 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 15, 2019 at 1:16 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 15, 2019 at 1:21 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 15, 2019 at 1:42 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 2:06 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 15, 2019 at 2:39 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 15, 2019 at 2:17 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 15, 2019 at 2:44 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Smaug - May 16, 2019 at 3:23 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 16, 2019 at 12:42 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 16, 2019 at 1:48 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Amarok - May 15, 2019 at 4:20 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 15, 2019 at 4:24 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Amarok - May 15, 2019 at 4:32 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Amarok - May 15, 2019 at 6:56 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Mister Agenda - May 16, 2019 at 9:47 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 16, 2019 at 11:48 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Mister Agenda - May 17, 2019 at 8:59 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Amarok - May 17, 2019 at 9:05 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 16, 2019 at 12:37 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 16, 2019 at 2:10 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 16, 2019 at 4:44 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 17, 2019 at 11:43 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Mister Agenda - May 20, 2019 at 9:31 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Jackalope - May 20, 2019 at 12:21 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by tackattack - May 20, 2019 at 2:26 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 20, 2019 at 2:27 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Jackalope - May 20, 2019 at 2:43 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by tackattack - May 20, 2019 at 5:43 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Rev. Rye - May 20, 2019 at 9:02 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 20, 2019 at 11:16 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Foxaèr - May 21, 2019 at 12:50 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 21, 2019 at 11:17 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Fake Messiah - May 24, 2019 at 3:12 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 24, 2019 at 11:23 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Mister Agenda - May 23, 2019 at 9:34 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 23, 2019 at 10:48 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 23, 2019 at 10:19 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 23, 2019 at 12:35 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 23, 2019 at 1:16 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 23, 2019 at 1:23 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 23, 2019 at 3:27 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Chad32 - May 23, 2019 at 5:27 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 24, 2019 at 11:13 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2019 at 11:16 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2019 at 12:44 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 24, 2019 at 12:54 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by LadyForCamus - May 24, 2019 at 8:48 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 25, 2019 at 6:26 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 28, 2019 at 9:51 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by LadyForCamus - May 28, 2019 at 6:07 pm
RE: Christian utopia? - by Drich - May 29, 2019 at 10:33 am
RE: Christian utopia? - by Divinity - May 29, 2019 at 11:01 am

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