(July 2, 2019 at 8:02 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:(July 2, 2019 at 3:40 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: So, Gwaithmir, how did it go? Did you find the material? Did you confront the guy?
He abandoned the discussion before I got anything usable here.
(July 2, 2019 at 12:36 pm)Drich Wrote: Because when you seek God on HIS terms God shows up.Lots of interesting anecdotes, but anecdotes are not proof of anything. What you have posted reads like nothing more than fantasy tales laced with confirmation bias. I've heard similar stories from Muslims, Jews, Native Americans, and even practitioners of Wicca.
For me God showed up directly in the way of my Judgement/Hell dream and in the way of an angel/messenger who told me of my past strife and prayers of my current situation and of my future, all of which was true and a great majority of the future stuff did indeed happen.
Both of these stories are document here:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-13378.html
https://atheistforums.org/thread-15622.html
Then in passively I have access to God's wisdom which is displayed in business (2 US patents for "green refrigeration system) which we sold and rolled into our little shop which brought us from a local business to one who deals internationally. also It would seem I have an insite to how scripture works and can generally answers any question concerning God or the bible IE being able to assimilate the whole of evolutionary theory into a 7 day creation with out changing a word of either the bible or the current evolutionary model.
All without any formal training or schooling of any kind in these fields. matter of fact when i graduated high school I could not read past 4th grade level, and what i could read I could not extrapolate information from/everything went into deciphering what was on page. I started with commic books to teach my self how to read and then moved on to the bible.
I am not alone as most believers believe because in one form or another God has shown up in their lives.
maybe not in your imaginary world, but here in C-137 ( I know pre2013 it references a DC-3, but here it references a rick and morty joke for you old people) Eye witness testimony is strong enough to sentence a man to death. personal testimony about a business or a restaurant can literally be the sole determination if it is successful or fails (ever hear of Yelp/It's another not old person thing look it up.)
maybe where you are from (the universe where people have hamsters driving them through their asses) when people (Say 2.2 billion ie the christian population of the world,) tell you there is a guy giving out 100 dollar bills on the corner of X and 3rd at 3:00PM every day if you compliment his hat. the LOGICAL thing to do is go and see for yourself and approach this guy on his terms and not through some stupid scientific method designed to fail as it is not following the prescription the man handing our the money demands!