RE: The Adam & Eve Myth - Origins
July 11, 2019 at 11:35 am
(This post was last modified: July 11, 2019 at 11:46 am by Drich.)
(July 10, 2019 at 11:25 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:(July 10, 2019 at 2:02 pm)Drich Wrote: Test-I-Mony moron Testimony! do you not understand what a testimony is? do you not know how eye witness account when compiled with 2.2 billion other similar accounts by defination is "proof."
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noun
- a formal written or spoken statement, especially one given in a court of law.
synonyms:
evidence, sworn statement, attestation, affidavit; More
- evidence or proof provided by the existence or appearance of something.
"his blackened finger was testimony to the fact that he had played in pain"
synonyms:
testament, proof, evidence, attestation, witness; More
- a public recounting of a religious conversion or experience.
Christians claim that the Bible is true and use it to claim that their doctrines are true. They claim that God divinely revealed its contents to Bronze Age characters and that the events therein really occurred. And yet, without supporting evidence, quotes from the Bible are mere claims, not truths. There is no more evidence of the Bible's veracity than The Lord of the Rings is evidence that Hobbits and Orcs exist.
how can you still not get what I have said so clearly?
Follow the instructions and they will put you before God the Holy Spirit in one form or another. The bible is not a science experiment therefore does not follow the rules of a science experiment. the bible is a set of instructions. follow the instructions as laid out and the proof the bible is valid is that you will be stood before God.
Again for me I literally stood before Christ at my judgement. AND I stood or sat with anangel who told me things i had only pleaded with God with, told me of my present and told me of my future without me having said 2 complete sentences to him (He knew nothing of me) let alone prayer I pleaded to God for in my head.
That is how a believer knows the bible is true as God promises to send the Holy Spirit for anyone who will simply A/S/K for him.
(July 11, 2019 at 3:18 am)Haipule Wrote: There are many Christians with many opposing "doctrines". The Word of God unites us as one. The "doctrines" of man divide us endlessly and that includes theology and "science". The ability to even begin to understand anything about zOE-life is a narrow path few find--according to Jesus.
You understand Doctrine are not gospel right?
Doctrine are man's attempt to understand and worship God.
The Gospil is what God did for us.
So doctrine given the Gospel are supposed to be different. as different and unique as there are people and personalities.
The Gospel say for any man who willfully sins and seeks attonement through Christ will not have his sin count against him. What is it to atone? it is to not only confess to God but to follow the rules of Christ. those rules are only 2. Love God with all of your being/put God first. and then love your neighbor as yourself. meaning if you want God to forgive you when you sin, then you must forgive other whe they sin against you.
That my friend is the gospel in a nut shell.. How to love God or what one must do to love god 'properly' the right the cermonies the rituals the traditions.. that's all doctrine. Doctrine is not sin, but it is not needed past a certain point either.
So who is right with their doctrine?
None of us.
So how can we still be all saved?
Because when you have Jesus' offered atonement supporting you the same grace that forgives you when you willfully murder someone and seek forgiveness and repent/turn from that sin also is there to forgive us when we are loving our lord God with all of our being (heart, mind, spirit and strength) and we simply get it wrong. or can not fully understand how god or the church is supposes to work.
(July 11, 2019 at 6:56 am)Gwaithmir Wrote:(July 11, 2019 at 3:18 am)Haipule Wrote: There are many Christians with many opposing "doctrines". The Word of God unites us as one. The "doctrines" of man divide us endlessly and that includes theology and "science". The ability to even begin to understand anything about zOE-life is a narrow path few find--according to Jesus.
And why should I care what an illiterate, deluded Bronze Age preacher had to say?
Jesus was not apart of the bronze age sport.. you are about 1200 years off