Libertarian left and right

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

you are pretty much correct with right libertarians, although some may have no problem with firemen and such. It just depends on how far right into the corner they are. some may claim that firemen should be privatised, and then charge you as soon as they put your fire out.

Wasn't there a story some time ago about something that happened in Kentucky where the firemen were privatized?
As I recall, they allowed someone's house to burn down because the man wasn't on the up and up with his dues.

I digress...

The libertarian left, on the other hand, especially where I am at on the compass, dont trust police officials of ANY type. Even their unions (if you can call them that) vote for people in the top right bracket of the compass. Firemen are fine as well as ambulance emergency workers. Healthcare shold be absolutely free, equal, and with all options intact (such as abortion, willing euthanasia, etc.) Insurance companies are one of the big enemies, as they influence the government to take societies freedoms away while they find ways to profit on peoples misery and suffering. Standing millitary is distasteful, and millitary should only be used to fight back an invasion only, and no more. Left Libertarians are for open borders with no nationalism, instead of being a "country", they are a community of humans regardless of race, religion, birthplace, etc.. In fact nationalism is distasteful to left libs, as they see it as a precursor to minorities getting ready to get screwed. Money is dispised by left libs as the big cause of the problems we face today, and it cheapens human worth and labor. government should only be the occasional meeting of labor trades to discuss minimal directions for progress and then disbanded. No one is rich, no one is poor, everyone shares in the local commodities for better or for worse. Banks are shut down. Money changers and stock markets are ran off for cheapening and leeching off of the labor of the masses. It is a commune of sorts, but not the "communism" of Stalin. Stalin was VERY authoritarian. Left libertarians distrust political and economic power, and therefore try to remove them from society as much as possible. Drugs are completely legalized, as well as adult concensual sex and pornography. Guns are completely legalized regardless of automatic or not, but are usually frowned upon. Censorship does not exist, education is a top priority as well as skilled craftmanship and creativity. All people take their equal share of the pie. Retirement and health are guarenteed for life no questions asked.

Thats left libertarian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-syndicalism

The term "communist" might be distasteful for the 'left libertarians" but that sounds to be essentially what it is.
Although the term tends to be affiliated with authoritarianism, a 'left libertarian paradise' would seem to be something along the lines of a community that has all but completely eliminated money and government, outside of a few necessary functions and everything done is done for the community at large.

There are many societies like this and many more that have come and gone - this sounds awfully similar to the sort of society many native american and african tribes currently and formerly had. Some of which were only introduced to the concept of property and currency when white people and spanish conquistadors showed up.

This doesn't sound like the ideal society to me, however, as much of the progress humanity has made philisophically, technologically, and so forth are a direct or indirect result of many of the things a "Left Libertarian" society would eliminate. It also seems incompatible with large and very large populatoins that are literally dependant upon large-scale organisation brought about by powerful governments and corperations.

We grow tired of being called communists, marxists, or Stalinist. We do not support state socialism (thats the top left of the compass), nor do we support capitalism. we support open ended and non-authoritarian co-operative economic systems.

That is a communist society or at least a form of communist society. It just isn't a 'government controls everything' communist society (which is technically a dictatorship anyway).

I could have my definitions crossed somewhere though, but I understand where you're coming from.