(August 11, 2019 at 10:50 pm)Acrobat Wrote:(August 11, 2019 at 10:36 pm)Grandizer Wrote: External things can be seen as good or bad. But the assignment of good and bad comes from us, not from "out there"
A pizza is an external thing, saying it's good and bad comes from us, it's as expression of our taste and feelings, our likes and dislikes. When i say this pizza is good, I'm telling you that it tastes pleasant to me. Good and bad here are expressions of my biological, internal state.
You agreed that this is not what you mean when referring to good and bad in a moral sense, that good and bad are not an expression of your likes and dislikes. When you say that the holocaust (an external thing) is bad, you're not saying it's bad simply because you don't like it (which would be true for the pizza).
Clearly you recognize the nature of good and bad in a moral sense, is distinctly different then when we use good bad when referring to subjective things like fashion, taste in music movies, etc....
" I cannot see how to refute the arguments for the subjectivity of ethical values but I find myself incapable of believing that all that is wrong with wanton cruelty is that I don’t like it." - Bertrand Russell (though it's probably a good description of the place you find yourself in now)
Good and bad are products of our intuition built and developed through millennia of evolution (and in some cases social conditioning). We see X causes unnecessary harm and we intuit that X must therefore be bad. As a result, we dislike it because is bad.
What I don't agree with is that X is bad because there is something floating out there in space that reveals it to be bad.
