RE: How to easily defeat any argument for God
August 12, 2019 at 12:08 am
(This post was last modified: August 12, 2019 at 12:11 am by LadyForCamus.)
(August 11, 2019 at 11:12 pm)Acrobat Wrote:(August 11, 2019 at 10:57 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Good and bad are products of our intuition built and developed through millennia of evolution (and in some cases social conditioning). We see X causes unnecessary harm and we intuit that X must therefore be bad. As a result, we dislike it because is bad.
What I don't agree with is that X is bad because there is something floating out there in space that reveals it to be bad.
Our perception of the sun is product of our intuition, and sensory organs, etc. built and developed through millennia of evolution. Good and bad are no more a product of our evolution, then the sun is a product of our evolution, only the components involved in our perceptions here, intuitive and otherwise.
If good and bad are not ultimately a description of our likes a dislike, a description of our internal biological state, then yes they are out there, not in here.
(August 11, 2019 at 11:10 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: No. Further, if the method you use to come by that truth doesn’t involve any god, then that renders god unnecessary, and unrelated to any moral truths. I’ll ask you a third time, because you seem to want to evade the question: Why is it objectively wrong to torture babies?
As opposed to subjectively wrong? Because wrongness is not a description of our likes and dislikes, saying it's morally bad to torture babies just for fun, isn't equivalent to saying my dinner tasted bad. I'm not describing an internal biological state, but rather something external to myself, to say it's objectively wrong, is like saying my wife's dress is yellow, as opposed to pretty.
Lol, you wanna take a fourth stab at it, Acro? You look exponentially more foolish every time you evade the question. I mean, really. This should be easy. Babies, ffs. Here we go. #4’s a charm:
Why is it objectively wrong to torture babes?
*popcorn*
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.