(August 13, 2019 at 8:59 am)Grandizer Wrote: You have 2 apples. What you don't have is the "2". There's no "2" existing in a way that you physically grasp it. The only 2 that is real is that which is used to describe the quantity of the apples.
Similarly, for "good". There's no "good" in the sense that there is a physical referent. There's "good acts" and "bad acts" but not "good".
I have two apples. The two is referent to the physical amount of apples that I posses.
Now when I use good in a subjective sense, such as when I speak of the how good my dinner taste. The referent of good here is my state of mind, my taste, my likes.
Since we acknowledge that moral good, unlike subjective goods is objective, the referent of good is not a state of mind, but something outside of it.
Quote: If you have a list of such criteria by which one can determine whether one is ugly or not, and you're measuring ugliness by reference to those criteria, then that would be an objective measure of ugliness. In what way is that not objective? Since when do physical facts not indicate objectiveness?
Because having objective measures for our subjective preferences, doesn't transform them into objective truth. They don't transform a subjective state of mind, to features of an external objective reality, outside our head.
Ugliness isn't reducible to physical facts about you. Your wife could acknowledge all the same physical facts about you, but see you as beautiful. If it were an objective truth, that you are objectively ugly, than your wife who disagrees would be wrong, like someone claiming that 1+1 = 4, or the earth is flat.